Friday, November 11, 2005

Tomer Yaffe writes to tell us that researchers at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem have discovered a technique to diagnose anxiety disorders with a simple blood test. From the article: "The researchers hope that the anxiety blood test will soon make its way into hospitals and E.R. rooms and give doctors and psychiatrists a quick and precise tool for examining, and eventually treating, these disorders." The team has also set their sights on depression, hoping for a similar technique to detect these types of disorders as well.Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='tech,science';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; Anxiety Disorders Discoverable by Blood Test Log in/Create an Account | Top | 327 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 327 comments 0: 321 comments 1: 249 comments 2: 159 comments 3: 42 comments 4: 23 comments 5: 14 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. What if their anxiety disorders involve needles? (Score:5, Funny) by glen604 (750214) on Monday October 10, @05:07PM (#13759437) then they'd be really screwed..Stop squirming away from the needle! We need to run this test on you! [ Reply to This Re:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles (Score:5, Funny) by Hey Pope Felcher . . (921019) on Monday October 10, @05:08PM (#13759446) . . . in that case the test would be fairly conclusive. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by kaosrain (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:11PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Rob the Bold (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:26PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by SteveAyre (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:46PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by DariaM84 (Score:1)Tuesday October 11, @12:11AMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Otter (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:16PM Re:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles (Score:4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10, @05:52PM (#13759772) This is 100% correct. I suffer from Paranoid Personality Disorder mixed in with anxiety and there is an inherent component of the "disorder" that would keep you from getting help in the first place. Some number of people with true paranoia or strong enough anxiety would not want to contact anyone for help in the first place. As avoidance, being worried about the interaction, denying any actual problem, etc.Then when you get to taking blood or DNA collection... Jesus. I have enough worries just thinking about medical records, anything written down about me that has the potential to be used against me, especially considering the sorry state of any type of security and the ability of others to gain access to that information through various means.The paranoid definitely are a group that rarely seeks out "help", this is clear from the DSM and other sources (very few PPD individuals seek treatment compared to other "disorders"), and I can testify first hand that the idea of blood being collected from me, or submitting myself to urine tests or the like certainly is something I would avoid.(open /. back up for Tor!) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Johnboi Waltune (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:47PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Johnboi Waltune (Score:3)Monday October 10, @07:01PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by ameline (Score:2)Monday October 10, @08:59PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Reziac (Score:2)Monday October 10, @11:14PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Anonymous Coward (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:07PMRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by Basehart (Score:2)Monday October 10, @11:26PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles (Score:4, Funny) by Rei (128717) on Monday October 10, @05:34PM (#13759650) (http://www.cursor.org/) This actually reminds me a bit of the home headache test [jt.org].Wife: "Oh, God, I'm in agony!"Husband (holding strip): "Honey, you don't have a headache."Wife: "Oh, thank God!" [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What if their anxiety disorders involve needles by man_eleven (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:16PM As a psych student (Score:5, Informative) by kaosrain (543532) <root&kaosrain,com> on Monday October 10, @05:07PM (#13759440) (http://slashdot.org/) As a psych student planning on specializing in anxiety/depression, this is great news. A blood test would make it a lot easier for people to acknowledge that they have an anxiety disorder. Currently one of the greatest challenges a psychologist faces in these disorders is getting the patient to see that they really do have one and it is impacting them negatively. [ Reply to ThisAs a psychologist by Frothy Walrus (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:11PM Re:As a psychologist (Score:5, Insightful) by kaosrain (543532) <root&kaosrain,com> on Monday October 10, @05:15PM (#13759500) (http://slashdot.org/) I disagree. While I feel that recovery should be placed upon the patient, it is important to let them know that they are not responsible for causing the disorder.My significant other was extremely bothered and felt that she was a failure for having an anxiety disorder, but I remind her that "(She) isn't responsible for having the disorder, but she is responsible for her recovery." [ Reply to This | ParentRe:As a psychologist by trentblase (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:18PMRe:As a psychologist by CyricZ (Score:3)Monday October 10, @05:22PM Re:As a psychologist (Score:4, Informative) by kaosrain (543532) <root&kaosrain,com> on Monday October 10, @05:26PM (#13759594) (http://slashdot.org/) It depends on the patient. In my opinion, benzodiazepines should NOT be used for long term treatment (anything longer than 2 weeks or so). What I've observed to be most effective is beginning an SSRI (or in some cases SNRI), and if needed using a benzodiazepine to control the symptoms/side effects until the S(S/N)RI has stablized. Then Cognitive Behavioral Therapy while the patient is on the anti-depressants, and then slowly taking them off of the antidepressants. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:As a psychologist by Anonymous Coward (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:06PMRe:As a psychologist by winwar (Score:2)Monday October 10, @11:40PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psychologist by Anonymous Coward (Score:1)Monday October 10, @09:26PMRe:As a psychologist by Ezza (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:02PM Wait a second... (Score:4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10, @05:24PM (#13759571) There was a point, counterpoint and then a reaffirmation of the first point and nobody said the other one was stupid? Is today OPPOSITE DAY!? [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Wait a second... by cammoblammo (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:20PMRe:Wait a second... by Ninja Platypus (Score:1)Monday October 10, @11:58PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psychologist by guitaristx (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:00PMRe:As a psychologist by hazem (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:48PMRe:As a psychologist by Total_Wimp (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:49PMScientological Explanation for These Results by billstewart (Score:2)Monday October 10, @09:08PM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Re:As a psychologist (Score:5, Interesting) by sabaco (92171) on Monday October 10, @05:18PM (#13759533) (http://phenominet.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday October 23, @07:47AM) And in my studied opinion, THAT is the most prevalent misconception in the field. Knowing their is a biological component to their illness helps patients realize it's not just them, they aren't just crazy or imagining it, and helps them work on it from a much stronger position. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:As a psychologist by Frothy Walrus (Score:3)Monday October 10, @05:22PMRe:As a psychologist by Anonymous Coward (Score:2)Monday October 10, @08:38PMRe:As a psychologist by brian0918 (Score:2)Monday October 10, @10:03PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psychologist by Monkelectric (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:24PMRe:As a psychologist by JesseL (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:28PMRe:As a psychologist by JesseL (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:33PMRe:As a psychologist by JakusMinimus (Score:2)Monday October 10, @08:30PMRe:As a psychologist by belmolis (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:28PMAs a psychologist with a different scope of view by foobsr (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:38PM Which explains why many psychologists (Score:5, Insightful) by jd (1658) on Monday October 10, @05:40PM (#13759687) (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday July 30, @01:33AM) ...aren't taken seriously. There is no one cause, no one element, in ANY disorder, so there is no one place you can treat that will remedy that disorder. Simply telling the person to buck up won't help them - but if you charge $200 for every time you tell them that, it might make you very rich. Especially as it won't cure them, guaranteeing repeat custom."Fixing" the person is like walpapering a house with collapsed foundations. It'll make the problem invisible... for a while. But unless you fix the foundations, the house will still fall down. Likewise, fixing the foundations alone may prevent further damage, but the inside of the house will still look a wreck.The job of ANYONE in (or around) mental health is to correct all of the aspects of the mental health problem they are dealing with. A partial solution can be worse than no solution at all, especially if you keep telling the patient that it's all the patient's fault/responsibility.Establishing a cause, like faulty genes, allows the patient to remedy the underlying problem. Most genetic or biological problems are solvable with the right regemen, but unless you identify those underlying issues, you will NEVER identify the regemen that needs to be followed. And the patient will suffer the consequences of your inaction by deteriorating further. However, such treatment will only ever stabilize a condition. It won't cure it. Curing DOES require the patient to take responsibility for their actions, for their lives and for getting better.To ask them to take that responsibility whilst their brain is chemically or electically up the spout, though, is about as intelligent as telling the skydiver whose parachute has failed that all they need do is flap their arms faster. Hardware failure requires a hardware solution. Software failure (in this case, the mind of the person) requires a software solution. NEVER assume that hardware will fix faulty software, or software will ever compensate for defective hardware.Remedy the fault, NOT the fault's owner. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Which explains why many psychologists (Score:4, Interesting) by JhohannaVH (790228) on Monday October 10, @05:53PM (#13759787) (Last Journal: Thursday October 21, @12:45PM) As a survivor, of both cognitive and pharma therapies together and seperate.... thank you for posting this. A lot. You have no idea. You've helped me a lot.... because you said a lot of things there that are very true, and that I need to remember. I quit going to BT, because it wasn't working. She kept saying the same things about screwed up relationships, past traumas, blah blah blah... but she would never give me any answers or strengths on how to deal with the real issues that I have. It did take her 4 months to convince me to go on meds, and another 4 months of therapy before I (and my insurance company) decided it was not working.Since then, I've been focusing on making a lot of progress on my own, and have been doing well. But my mistrust in psychiatric professionals is shaken once again. Especially when said shrink calls and bitches me out for missing an appointment that was set 6 months ago, and was in another calendar at another JOB (that I no longer have, and that my NEW insurance won't cover. So what? He sent me a bill and didn't renew my prescription. So now, in order to that, I have to pay him his $250 bucks an hour (of which I get 10 minutes), and listen to him talk about his support for the gay boys of SD. *BARF* All so I can get him to renew a drug that I KNOW and can prove is working, combatting my anxiety and fears, so that I can learn to better face them on my own. :) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Which explains why many psychologists by Anonymous Coward (Score:1)Monday October 10, @11:22PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Which explains why many psychologists by UnrefinedLayman (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:13PMRe:Which explains why many psychologists by jcgf (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:22PMHey, its a scientologist! by gad_zuki! (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:14PMRe:Hey, its a scientologist! by jkmartin (Score:1)Monday October 10, @09:00PMRe:Hey, its a scientologist! by jcgf (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:35PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.One Designer for Another by Ieshan (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:41PMRe:One Designer for Another by jd (Score:2)Tuesday October 11, @12:01AMRe:One Designer for Another by Ieshan (Score:2)Tuesday October 11, @12:36AMRe:Which explains why many psychologists by njh (Score:3)Monday October 10, @07:57PMRe:Which explains why many psychologists by Anonymous Coward (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:25PMHeh! That's a good example. by jd (Score:2)Tuesday October 11, @12:12AMRe:As a psychologist by nilesh_tms (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:42PMRe:As a psychologist by michaeltoe (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:27PMRe:As a psychologist by (negative video) (Score:2)Monday October 10, @11:40PMRe:As a psychologist by Omestes (Score:3)Monday October 10, @05:54PMRe:As a psychologist by jarrettwold2002 (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:38PMRe:As a psychologist by Chris Snook (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:20PMRe:As a psychologist by holy zarquon's singi (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:14PMRe:As a psychologist by DavidTC (Score:1)Tuesday October 11, @12:51AMRe:As a psychologist by (negative video) (Score:2)Monday October 10, @09:54PMRe:As a psychologist by brian0918 (Score:2)Monday October 10, @09:57PMRe:As a psychologist by corngrower (Score:2)Monday October 10, @10:21PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Research Purposes by Karma_fucker_sucker (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:13PMRe:Research Purposes by Otter (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:24PMRe:Research Purposes by Karma_fucker_sucker (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:37PMRe:Research Purposes by Otter (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:55PM Re:Research Purposes (Score:4, Informative) by NoData (9132) <_NoData_NO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Monday October 10, @06:13PM (#13759933) For example, if I had the money, I would love to finance a study to see how effective relaxation techniques (TM, Yoga, other breathing exercises, exercise...) are in reducing anxiety.Look at the research of Jon Kabat-Zinn. Here's an example [nih.gov]. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Research Purposes by gui_tarzan2000 (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:59PMRe:As a psych student by hvatum (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:15PMRe:As a psych student by michaeltoe (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:41PMRe:As a psych student by hvatum (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:54PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by HD Webdev (Score:2)Tuesday October 11, @12:34AMRe:As a psych student by tktk (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:22PMAs the victim of many ineffective psychologists by Loundry (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:22PMRe:As the victim of many ineffective psychologists by polished look 2 (Score:2)Monday October 10, @11:04PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by hendridm (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:25PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:29PMRe:As a psych student by michaeltoe (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:34PMRe:As a psych student by michaeltoe (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:47PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:56PMRe:As a psych student by jrnchimera (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:10PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:17PMRe:As a psych student by jrnchimera (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:36PMRe:As a psych student by pomo monster (Score:2)Monday October 10, @09:50PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:30PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by ArsenneLupin (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:39PMRe:As a psych student by Omestes (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:59PMRe:As a psych student by michaeltoe (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:16PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:26PMRe:As a psych student by modecx (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:49PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:44PMRe:As a psych student by jrnchimera (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:20PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:30PMRe:As a psych student by jrnchimera (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:38PMRe:As a psych student by poopdeville (Score:1)Monday October 10, @09:21PMRe:As a psych student by btobin (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:44PMRe:As a psych student by Omestes (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:22PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:34PMRe:As a psych student by Omestes (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:58PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Moral Judgement by Descalzo (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:44PMRe:Moral Judgement by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @08:09PMRe:Moral Judgement by Descalzo (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:27PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by Kris Thalamus (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:45PMRe:As a psych student by Mad_Rain (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:44PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:56PMRe:As a psych student by Mad_Rain (Score:2)Tuesday October 11, @12:15AMRe:As a psych student by cammoblammo (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:36PMRe:As a psych student by LeonGeeste (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:49PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by Hatta (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:35PMRe:As a psych student by Antonymous Flower (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:48PMRe:As a psych student by lav-chan (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:30PMAs a crazy person.... by fm6 (Score:3)Monday October 10, @06:04PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:As a psych student by ZeroExistenZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:23PM Re:As a psych student (Score:5, Insightful) by bigpat (158134) on Monday October 10, @06:29PM (#13760034) despite the headlines, please don't mistake this for a test for anxiety disorder.This is a test for the chemical indicators of anxiety itself, a positive test would indicate anxiety not the disorder. Anxiety itself is a natural response to certain perceived situations. A disorder would still have to be identified by careful observation and a history of anxiety in situations most people aren't anxious about or anxiety levels that don't diminish in normal period of time after a perceived threat. So, you would need to test over a period of time and perhaps before, during and after exposing a person to some situation that would normally cause anxiety.Of course, if needles make you anxious, then the test won't tell you anything except who doesn't like needles. [ Reply to This | ParentMod Parent Up... by Mad_Rain (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:51PMRe:As a psych student by kaosrain (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:17PMI have a few questions about this... by Koil (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:17PM4 replies beneath your current threshold. Oh wonderful (Score:3, Insightful) by USSJoin (896766) on Monday October 10, @05:08PM (#13759450) Because that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we want to do with people with anxiety disorder: suck out their blood. That couldn't *possibly* make anyone... anxious, or worried. Nope. Not a chance of that. [ Reply to This1 reply beneath your current threshold. Screening (Score:3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10, @05:08PM (#13759453) Perfect for screening potential employees as well! [ Reply to ThisRe:Screening by Wizarth (Score:1)Monday October 10, @07:26PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. My only worry (Score:3, Interesting) by jb.hl.com (782137) <joe&joe-baldwin,net> on Monday October 10, @05:09PM (#13759454) (http://joe-baldwin.net/) My only worry about this is that some people might just be feeling shitty, and wouldn't want to submit to a blood test. What if a person says they're anxious/depressed, but the blood test says otherwise? What do doctors believe?In any event, it'd probably be better if doctors got to work on making some antidepressants with less overt side effects before they learn to diagnose it...I mean I've just started taking Prozac, and already I'm getting headaches, and the leaflet with the pills has a whole lot more side effects to watch out for. [ Reply to ThisRe:My only worry by foobsr (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:17PMRe:My only worry by slo_learner (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:18PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:My only worry by einhverfr (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:23PMOnly 1 researcher in the field by bigtrike (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:26PMRe:My only worry by KillShill (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:46PMRe:My only worry by jb.hl.com (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:16PMRe:My only worry by TonyMillion (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:34PMRe:My only worry by jb.hl.com (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:40PMRe:My only worry by claus.wilke (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:10PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. (Score:2, Interesting) by CyricZ (887944) on Monday October 10, @05:09PM (#13759455) While I'm not a doctor, a lot of the most anxious people I know are heavy consumers of caffeine. They're the sort of people who drink three cups in the morning, followed by a Coke while at work, and then another cup of coffee and a chocolate bar snack on the way home, followed by a couple of cups of tea with dinner. And then they can't sleep, so they need to repeat the cycle again the next day, for years on end.The was one fellow I worked with, Trent, who was in that cycle, and was always very anxious and irritable. He eventually decided to just cut out caffeine completely. So he started drinking fruit juices instead of coffee, water instead of Coke. He stopped eating chocolate. And soon after dropping caffeine from his diet he found he was able to concentrate more, was far more efficient at work, and was a whole lot less anxious.So perhaps a good way to eliminate some forms of anxiousness is to stop consuming caffeine. [ Reply to This Re:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. (Score:4, Funny) by jd (1658) on Monday October 10, @05:13PM (#13759485) (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday July 30, @01:33AM) That makes anxiety easy to test for. If there's no blood in the caffeine stream, then they're suffering from excessive anxiety. You can then diagnose the type of anxiety by whether the largest fraction of non-caffeine substance is tea, coffee or chocolate. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by Enrico Pulatzo (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:25PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by ErikTheRed (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:14PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by Frangible (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:21PMMore info regarding that study. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:33PMRe:More info regarding that study. by Frangible (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:38PM Re:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. (Score:5, Funny) by MoogMan (442253) on Monday October 10, @05:30PM (#13759618) (http://thesocialemptyset.co.uk/) Perhaps anxious people go to Caffeine as an answer. Then get hooked on harder drugs such as Coding and Linux. [ Reply to This | ParentCaffeine: the gateway drug by redheaded_stepchild (Score:1)Monday October 10, @10:34PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by Rob the Bold (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:31PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by Skater (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:34PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:41PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by Skater (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:19PMJust curious by Descalzo (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:52PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by lav-chan (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:42PMRe:Anxiety caused by too much caffeine. by rizole (Score:1)Monday October 10, @06:29PMReal anxiety disorders are probably not so. by vorpal^ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:18PMLet's look at the definition, chico. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:26PMRe:Let's look at the definition, chico. by Otter (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:42PMSorry, both you and him are incorrect. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:12PMRe:Sorry, both you and him are incorrect. by Otter (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:07PMRe:Sorry, both you and him are incorrect. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @07:08PMOf course caffeine isn't always the cause. by CyricZ (Score:2)Monday October 10, @06:19PM5 replies beneath your current threshold. How is this any better? (Score:2) by garcia (6573) on Monday October 10, @05:09PM (#13759457) (http://www.lazylightning.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 27, @04:39PM) Many people who are reluctant to undergo this examination are left untreated and can continue to suffer for many years.So, if people are reluctant to undergo examination by a doctor what makes the researches believe that they will appreciate being stuck w/a needle and then have to sit around and wait out their results? [ Reply to ThisSticking a needle in the patient's urethra? by CyricZ (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:15PMRe:Sticking a needle in the patient's urethra? by CyricZ (Score:1)Monday October 10, @05:53PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:How is this any better? by Rob the Bold (Score:2)Monday October 10, @05:37PM Dangerous (Score:4, Insightful) by manonthemoon (537690) on Monday October 10, @05:09PM (#13759460) (http://www.markstewart.net/) I doubt these kind of issues can be singled out by a blood test. I'm sure they are finding some subset of those with an anxiety issue, but they will overlook others with similar issues because "it didn't show up on the test."The last thing we need are doctors relying even *more* upon tests rather than listening to their patients. [ Reply to This Re:Dangerous (Score:4, Insightful) by TrappedByMyself (861094) on Monday October 10, @05:42PM (#13759703) I doubt these kind of issues can be singled out by a blood test. No shit, Sherlock. You've just oversimplified the situation, then complained that it was too simple. This is no different than any other medical test. Patient complains and doctor takes complaints + test results + research + experience to figure out what's going on. Complaints + results don't jive? Well, then more questions, tests, research, querying other doctors. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Dangerous by biobogonics (Score:3)Monday October 10, @06:28PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Needlephobia (Score:2) by path_man (610677)

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