walterbyrd writes "In a recent article, Forbes bashes bloggers big time (forbesdontbug/forbesdontbug)." From the article: "Blogs started a few years ago as a simple way for people to keep online diaries. Suddenly they are the ultimate vehicle for brand-bashing, personal attacks, political extremism and smear campaigns. It's not easy to fight back: Often a bashing victim can't even figure out who his attacker is. No target is too mighty, or too obscure, for this new and virulent strain of oratory. Microsoft has been hammered by bloggers; so have CBS, CNN and ABC News, two research boutiques that criticized IBM's Notes software, the maker of Kryptonite bike locks, a Virginia congressman outed as a homosexual and dozens of other victims--even a right-wing blogger who dared defend a blog-mob scapegoat. " BoingBoing has a long post about the article.Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='editorial,internet';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; Forbes Goes After Bloggers Log in/Create an Account | Top | 227 comments (Spill at 50!) | Index Only | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 227 comments 0: 224 comments 1: 192 comments 2: 116 comments 3: 28 comments 4: 16 comments 5: 12 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. (1) | 2 Blog Bashin' Fools by ackthpt (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:18PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by RLiegh (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:23PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by Egorn (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:35PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by el americano (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:28PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by rebelcan (Score:1) Saturday October 29, @12:24AMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by tomhudson (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:05PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by Delphiki (Score:2) Friday October 28, @09:30PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by tomhudson (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:14PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Blog Bashin' Fools by Monstard (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:24PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Blog Bashin' Fools by UOZaphod (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:41PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by ackthpt (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:54PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by ceejayoz (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:56PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by macdaddy357 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:53PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by ackthpt (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:02PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by Burz (Score:3) Friday October 28, @07:16PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by Wyatt Earp (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:06PMRe:Blog Bashin' Fools by SoupIsGoodFood_42 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:53PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Props to the OP... by Dante Shamest (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:18PMForbes has Long been the Crap-Standard by nightsweat (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:18PManyone by alizard (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:55PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. blogosphere CAN be healthy, too (Score:5, Interesting) by yagu (721525) * <yayagu&gmail,com> on Friday October 28, @06:19PM (#13900489) (Last Journal: Sunday October 16, @06:38PM) Hmmm, have to register to read the article, I hate that.But, from the slashdot summary, ..., Microsoft has beenhammered by bloggers; so have CBS, CNN and ABC News, two researchboutiques that criticized IBM's Notes software, the maker of Kryptonitebike locks, a Virginia congressman outed as a homosexual and dozens ofother victims--even a right-wing blogger who dared defend a blog-mobscapegoat..., As with all sea changes in communications comes (especially earlyon) a high noise to signal ratio. Hopefully reasonable readers apply reasonablefilters to what they read.There may be incendiary posts, unnecessary posts, and inappropriate post (includingbut not limited to trolling, flaming, and slander), but in the collective bodyof blogs are useful nuggets worth mining. Vendors, companies, and individualsbenefit if they choose by tuning in to this.The evolution of airing a complaint has evolved from snail mail (good luck), tophone calls (good luck), and with the internet, to "Contact Us" (hmmm, good luck).None of these in my experience have been as effective as I prefer becausethe receiving complainant can easily ignore the missives as so much whining, andinvisible that they don't have to be responsive.Not all ignore complaints, pleas for help, etc. Notably (andI'm only picking a couple) I've always received timely and helpfulreplies from Amazon.com and Thumbnails Plus [slashdot.org] . These areonly two examples, I could cite more.But with the volume raised, the signal amplified with the more public blogosphereI've seen signs there can be positive outcomes. Again, while some posts areinflammatory only, valid complaints about activities, governments, and companiesin such a public forum spur action faster and more effectively than in the past.And, as with all emerging conduits, mechanisms are being built and refinedeventually improving the signal to noise ratio to a much more acceptable number(case in point... you troll or flame too much here, even anonymously, youget shut down until you clean up your act).I am looking forward to the future that is the blogosphere. [ Reply to ThisRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by dancpsu (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:23PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by SuperRob (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:52PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by Buran (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:38PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by ceejayoz (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:59PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by Buran (Score:2) Friday October 28, @11:13PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by metlin (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:44PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by rvandam (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:53PMRe:blogosphere CAN be healthy, too by koliebo (Score:1) Friday October 28, @11:40PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.#1 by umbrellasd (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:20PMMaybe you're unclear on the 1st ammendment by b00m3rang (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:38PMRe:Maybe you're unclear on the 1st ammendment by clem (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:12PMRe:Maybe you're unclear on the 1st ammendment by b00m3rang (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:23PMRe:#1 by heptapod (Score:1) Friday October 28, @10:29PMRe:#1 by umbrellasd (Score:1) Saturday October 29, @12:37AMBlog? by fremen (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:20PM Bashing? Subjective at best (Score:5, Insightful) by bconway (63464) * on Friday October 28, @06:20PM (#13900498) (http://www.nasioc.com/) No target is too mighty, or too obscure, for this new and virulent strain of oratory. Microsoft has been hammered by bloggers; so have CBS, CNN and ABC News, two research boutiques that criticized IBM's Notes software, the maker of Kryptonite bike locks The uproar and exposition of the Kryptonite bike locks was covered extensively on Slashdot. This _security_ product had severe design flaws that exposed the owners of their device to significant risk, and the company buried it, hoping no one would notice. [ Reply to ThisRe:Bashing? Subjective at best by plover (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:25PMRe:Bashing? Subjective at best by Jeff DeMaagd (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:36PMRe:Bashing? Subjective at best by terrymr (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:48PMRe:Bashing? Subjective at best by rzebram (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:30PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Subjective? No, defensive. (Score:5, Interesting) by roystgnr (4015) <`ude.saxetu.macit' `ta' `rngtsyor'> on Friday October 28, @06:39PM (#13900699) (http://slashdot.org/) This is just more trash talk from Dan Lyons, Forbes own resident pro-SCO, anti-"Linux crunchies" troll. He's apparantly realized that his only hope of keeping his job indefinitely is to convince his bosses that having one's arguments meticulously dissected by flaw-finding weblogs is a meaningless annoyance that happens to everybody, and to dissuade his bosses from ever paying close attention to the flaws found in Dan's own work.Don't even click the link and give them an ad impression. Unless the man has just lost his mind, the whole reason for writing these shrill rants is to draw more "Slashdot effect" hits. It's quite possible that Forbes is thrilled to see all the attention in their web server logs, not yet realizing they're getting it by driving away the "Wall Street Journal" audience in favor of the more populous "National Enquirer" crowd. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Subjective? No, defensive. by Burz (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:09PMRe:Subjective? No, defensive. by antiMStroll (Score:3) Friday October 28, @07:18PMWelcome to the 21st century by Mistshadow2k4 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @10:32PMRe:Subjective? No, defensive. by Trepalium (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:42PMRe:Subjective? No, defensive. by slashflood (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:41PMRe:Subjective? No, defensive. by ityllux (Score:1) Saturday October 29, @12:50AM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Defensive and in my opinion, not bashing. by hummassa (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:52PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Attack of the postal mailers!!! by tommers (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:20PM I'm sure Alexander Hamilton said the same (Score:4, Insightful) by Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) * <seebert@seeberfamily.org> on Friday October 28, @06:21PM (#13900510) (http://www.informationr.us/ | Last Journal: Friday October 28, @06:51PM) Of Ben Franklin's newspaper. This sort of thing has been going on since the begining of the country- that's what freedom of the press is all about. Having said that, my new signature line is key to defeating the danger of the blogosphere. For every action, there will be an equal and opposite reaction. This goes for business ethics just as much as it goes for momentum. [ Reply to ThisUnfortunately by mcc (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:39PMRe:Unfortunately by Marxist Hacker 42 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:42PMRe:I'm sure Alexander Hamilton said the same by Have Blue (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:43PMRe:I'm sure Alexander Hamilton said the same by Marxist Hacker 42 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:59PMRe:I'm sure Alexander Hamilton said the same by Have Blue (Score:2) Friday October 28, @10:45PMRe:I'm sure Alexander Hamilton said the same by tootlemonde (Score:3) Friday October 28, @07:54PMDear Forbes, by Dan Up Baby (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:21PMForbe's first line of attack against bloggers is.. by ChrisGilliard (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:22PMOh n0es! by unsigned integer (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:22PM Nothing to see here...! (Score:5, Funny) by jettoki (894493) on Friday October 28, @06:22PM (#13900524) Mass Media to the Masses: Please ignore the vulgar upwelling of free speech to your left. Look here, its Britney's baby photos! Lookit the photos! Thassa good boy! [ Reply to ThisRe:Nothing to see here...! by Delphiki (Score:2) Friday October 28, @09:40PMRe:Nothing to see here...! by Buran (Score:2) Saturday October 29, @12:01AMWhat do you expect by MycroftMkIV (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:24PMRe:What do you expect by generic-man (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:40PMRe:What do you expect by vidarh (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:09PM Re:What do you expect (Score:4, Informative) by commonchaos (309500) on Friday October 28, @06:41PM (#13900710) (Last Journal: Monday April 04, @04:12PM) You have a point, a quick google search found a link to a site that lists all articles by Daniel Lyons [byliner.com]. Very interesting. Thanks. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What do you expect by Goaway (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:58PMRe:What do you expect by commonchaos (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:11PMBlogging = Free Press, right? by dex.pdx (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:24PMRe:Blogging = Free Press, right? by MsGeek (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:34PMRe:Blogging = Free Press, right? by minus_273 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:37PMRe:Blogging = Free Press, right? by dex.pdx (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:31PMRe:Blogging = Free Press, right? by minus_273 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @09:58PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Suprising by digitalgimpus (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:24PMRe:Suprising by lazd.net (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:39PMRe:Suprising by digitalgimpus (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:44PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. The more alternatives the merrier - (Score:5, Insightful) by Japong (793982) on Friday October 28, @06:25PM (#13900556) Amazing - Forbes, which caters to the very rich, is shocked and appalled that suddenly people who aren't rich are getting heard. And these giant, billion dollar companies just can't seem to figure out who to crush, or how to lock them out of the media. Hopefully once the internet becomes even better equipped for creating many-to-many streams of information (blogs are taking on newspapers, podcasts are taking on radio... soon it might even be... television?), we'll at least get to a point where the select few have aclimatized to the fact that there oligopolies are gone. [ Reply to ThisMOD PARENT UP! by nightsweat (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:29PMRe:MOD PARENT UP! by dada21 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:47PMRe:MOD PARENT UP! by Taladar (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:53PM Re:The more alternatives the merrier - (Score:4, Funny) by gad_zuki! (70830) on Friday October 28, @07:10PM (#13900961) (http://everythingisnt.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday October 27, @12:59AM) >Forbes, which caters to the very rich, is shocked and appalled that suddenly people who aren't rich are getting heard.Exactly. This article is best read in a Thurston Howell III [forbes.com] voice and perhaps should end with, "then let them eat cake!" [wikipedia.org] [ Reply to This | ParentWhereas the mainstream media ... by Mostly a lurker (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:26PM democracy of sorts (Score:5, Insightful) by TheAdventurer (779556) on Friday October 28, @06:26PM (#13900568) god, don't you hate it when the lowly plebs have a forum in which to have their voice heard? I just feel so much sympathy for giant corporations with access to the biggest media outlets in the world. It's just awful that they are being picked on by individuals who more often than not live paycheck to paycheck and have to face the practical consequences of the decisions these companies make in private board rooms.Also, boycott Nestle. [ Reply to ThisRe:democracy of sorts by Kelson (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:06PM Some of these comments are interesting..... (Score:5, Funny) by 8127972 (73495) on Friday October 28, @06:27PM (#13900572) ...... I'll quote them in my blog. [ Reply to ThisRe:Some of these comments are interesting..... by rev_karol (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:44PMSomeone was making fun of Lotus?! by RentonSentinel (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:27PMHmmm... by evil agent (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:29PMRe:Hmmm... by Taladar (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:59PMRe:Hmmm... by RobotRunAmok (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:51PMRe:Hmmm... by saskboy (Score:2) Friday October 28, @09:37PMForbes don't like! by a_n_d_e_r_s (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:30PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Gee, that's too bad by jridley (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:31PMRe:Gee, that's too bad by UOZaphod (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:56PMFrom the folks who bring us Daniel Lyons by EllynGeek (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:32PM DMCA abuse (Score:5, Interesting) by slavemowgli (585321) on Friday October 28, @06:32PM (#13900622) (http://venganza.org/) What I find surprising is that nobody has pointed out yet what Dan Gillmore [bayosphere.com] has mentioned: namely, that the article encourages firms to "(f)ind some copyrighted text that a blogger has lifted from your Web site and threaten to sue his Internet service provider under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act".Geez. Talk about an abuse of the (already abusive) DMCA and the justice system in general. I really lost a lot of respect for Forbes when I read that - going after people who exercise their right to free speech and disagree with you is bad enough, but bringing fraudulent lawsuits against them and their ISPs is, well, criminal. Or if it's not, then it should be. [ Reply to This Re:DMCA abuse (Score:4, Interesting) by cyberformer (257332) on Friday October 28, @08:03PM (#13901462) There's a comment from an EFF attorney addressing this in the linked BoingBoing discussion (not TFA itself --- I don't want to give those bastards a pageview, even with adblock on). It's stupid advice that could cost companies a lot of money.Basically, the DMCA is bad, but not that bad. Diebold tried to abuse it in exactly the way that Forbes is suggesting, and got fined $125,000. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:DMCA abuse by Hurricane78 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:51PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Pamela Jones sidebar is trash by SydShamino (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:32PMRe:Pamela Jones sidebar is trash by SydShamino (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:13PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.From the article.... by ChrisGilliard (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:32PMNo wonder Forbes hates blogs by Len (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:33PMThey go after PJ & Groklaw too by terrymr (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:33PMYeah, freedom of speech = bad by xiando (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:33PMTed Hitler's stance on the issue by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:33PMWho's the pot and who's the kettle? by mcc (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:34PMIBM's Notes by dapyx (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:34PM people should express themselves (Score:5, Insightful) by circletimessquare (444983) <circletimessquare@@@gmail...com> on Friday October 28, @06:34PM (#13900652) that's always good, and healthy for a democracywhat the forbes article suggests is that we should all suppress our desires to express ourselvesi mean the article is 100% right: blogs are a wasteland of mental detritushowever, i'll take that wasteland of mental detritus over some sort of expectation or belief that the content of all of our minds should be placid and the same, without any sense of dissentblogs are nothing but windows on people minds, and anyone who is surprised that most of what is in our minds is absolute crap doesn't really know the human species very wellblgos are an avenue for venting, for blowing off steam, and it's a healthy, acceptable way to do soto suppress that doesn't destroy asocial impulses, it merely means pressure builds and asocial thoughts and desires get expressed in far less acceptable ways, often in real lifefar better the web serve as our mental trashground than real life, don't you agree?so the author of this piece may or may not be happier in an authoritarian state, but they certainly are guilty of taking blogs WAY too seriously in the least, and at the worst, they have antidemocratic instincts and impulsesand if so, then please, by all means, dear forbes article author: enjoy your emigration to north korea, the utopia of sameness and consensus you seek [ Reply to ThisIt's a tricky subject indeed.... by technoextreme (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:34PMLovely sidebar on 'Fighting Back' by shawnmchorse (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:34PMHail Xenu? by Tackhead (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:58PM mr. pot, meet mr. kettle (Score:5, Interesting) by nadamsieee (708934) on Friday October 28, @06:35PM (#13900666) Suddenly they are the ultimate vehicle for brand-bashing, personal attacks, political extremism and smear campaigns. That's an interesting statement coming from a magazine that frequently publishes personal attacks [groklaw.net] and smear campaigns [groklaw.net]. Come to think of it, since a blog is by definition a personal web-log, this entire article is just one mass personal attack... [ Reply to Thiswhat is that second link supposed to represent? by YesIAmAScript (Score:2) Friday October 28, @08:01PMWhy don't you take a look at the source materials? by Luban Doyle (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:49PMRe:what is that second link supposed to represent? by Luban Doyle (Score:1) Friday October 28, @09:14PM Boing Boing. (Score:5, Interesting) by An Onerous Coward (222037) on Friday October 28, @06:35PM (#13900667) (http://www.cs.utah.edu/~andersbr/) One of the great points made in the BoingBoing commentary is that, if a corporation follows certain bits of the article's advice, they could open themselves up to liability. For example, if you do as the author suggests, find "copyrighted text" on their site and then use it for the basis of a DMCA takedown notice, they might be able to justify their usage via fair use. If so, it's possible for them to countersue you for sending a misleading or inaccurate takedown notice. Again according to the commentary, Diebold got hit with $125,000 in fines for precisely this reason.Not terribly responsible journalism by Daniel Lyons. Of course, you may remember the earlier Lyons article in which he defended [forbes.com] Maureen O'Gara's attack on groklaw's [groklaw.net] PJ. He doesn't appear to be an open source enthusiast. For example, in an article on Marc Fleury of JBoss fame, he writes [forbes.com]: "Poor guy. Did he not get the memo? This is what open source software is all about: creating knockoffs and giving them away, destroying the value of whatever the other guy is selling.""What's new is that now open-source companies are turning on each other." Memo to Slashdot, and to myself: YHBT. [ Reply to ThisRe:Boing Boing. by Apotsy (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:06PMRe:Boing Boing. by Qzukk (Score:2) Friday October 28, @09:16PMHow dare people have the temerity... by Senjutsu (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:36PMRe:How dare people have the temerity... by UOZaphod (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:51PMRe:How dare people have the temerity... by Senjutsu (Score:3) Friday October 28, @07:35PMRe:How dare people have the temerity... by riceboy50 (Score:1) Friday October 28, @10:52PMAbout time by Realistic_Dragon (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:37PMDamn those people AND their blogs... by Tiger4 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:37PMThe Internet and freedom of speech by dada21 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:38PMTargetting the Mighty by The Angry Mick (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:39PMForbid someone actually voice an opinion by Filoviridae (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:39PMRe:Forbid someone actually voice an opinion by The Angry Mick (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:46PM Article might not be all wrong (Score:5, Insightful) by AaronStJ (182845) <[AaronStJ] [at] [gmail.com]> on Friday October 28, @06:40PM (#13900704) (http://aaronstj.deviantart.com/) I've only skimmed the article, but has it occured to you guys that it might not be all wrong. We're quick to rush in and defend blogs - they're a great way for the underdogs to expose actual wrongdoing and injustices - but maybe not all bloggers deserve our support.The truth is, Forbes is right, blogs allow yahoos with an axe to grind and phony information to gain publicity adn credibility - after all, they're the underdog, standing against the faceless corporation. In a day where pretty much all of us are very skeptical of anything published in the mainstream maybe far too many of us are willing to take anything read in a blog as the gospel truth (I read it on the Internet, so it has to be true).FUD flows in both directions, and businesses should be at least aware of the blogosphere, and that bloggers may be spreading misinformation, and how to counter it with the truth. Businesses, of course, also need to know that the blogosphere is watching their every move - and they need to be more careful now than ever that they always act ethically - something thye should be doing anyway.Reading the Frobes article deeper, it's pretty hard to defend. The article itself is full of misinformation and despicable ideas (in their sidebars, they side with SCO, malign Pamela Jones, and suggest using the DMCA to take down blogs). Nevertheless, the general idea of my post still remains - maybe we're a bit too trusting of blogs, and it doesn't hurt to look at the other's guys point of view. Bloggers are just as capable of spreading FUD as a corporation - even more capable because wheras a corporation has very very little accountability, an anonymous blogger has even less. [ Reply to ThisI have seen by Uukrul (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:58PMRe:Article might not be all wrong by UOZaphod (Score:1) Friday October 28, @07:11PMRe:Article might not be all wrong by Vellmont (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:47PMRe:Article might not be all wrong by vidarh (Score:2) Friday October 28, @07:53PMRe:Article might not be all wrong by AaronStJ (Score:1) Friday October 28, @08:39PMRe:Article might not be all wrong by SouprMage (Score:1) Saturday October 29, @12:50AMRe:Article might not be all wrong by rhizome (Score:2) Friday October 28, @11:29PMHeh by kuzb (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:40PMbuy my product but dont complain by UprlghtCitizen (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:41PMWe all have our least favorite stores by davidwr (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:43PM"sidebars" by whoever57 (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:46PMRe:"sidebars" by Steve B (Score:2) Friday October 28, @09:42PMI don't like free speech by bheading (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:46PMit's the new reformation of sorts by b17bmbr (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:48PMOn Kryptonite locks by Tsiangkun (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:48PMWho is PJ? A better journalist than you... by nweaver (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:49PMarticle cliff notes... by i7dude (Score:3) Friday October 28, @06:52PMRe:article cliff notes... by i7dude (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:54PMGuess whose next? by bkmiictian (Score:1) Friday October 28, @06:52PMThe microscope effect by myowntrueself (Score:2) Friday October 28, @06:54PMA.J. 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