X-Fade writes "Nokia launched OpenSource.nokia.com today. It is the first place to look for information concerning Nokia involvement in the Open Source community. The Projects page lists all Nokia developed downloadable code including: Maemo (Development platform for Linux based handhelds), MobileNews (Mobile NNTP reader), Python for S60, Sofia-SIP (SIP User-Agent library) and more. The website also features a list of all projects Nokia contributed to."Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='announce,it';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; Nokia Starts Open Source Website Log in/Create an Account | Top | 38 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 38 comments 0: 33 comments 1: 28 comments 2: 19 comments 3: 6 comments 4: 3 comments 5: 2 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Ipso? (Score:3, Insightful) by ponds (728911) on Wednesday November 02, @08:03PM (#13937398) Wake me up when Nokia open-sources Ipso. [ Reply to ThisRe:Ipso? by Saiyine (Score:1) Wednesday November 02, @08:10PMRe:Ipso Faxso by ponds (Score:3) Wednesday November 02, @08:59PMRe:Ipso Faxso by clymere (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @09:51PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Ipso? by octaene (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @10:22PMRe:Ipso? by ponds (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @09:10PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:Ipso? (Score:5, Informative) by convolvatron (176505) on Wednesday November 02, @09:14PM (#13937777) i was one of the engineers on ipso. its not completely useless,its lovely to do network level code in, and it was about 2x fasterthan the freebsd it was based on (1.2) in forwarding speed. ithad decent custom routing protocol implementations.but there really isn't any need for a seperate implementationany longer. really. all you would be doing is losing out ondrivers. i think its lived just as a marketing token, a randomdifferentiator. and nokia can vaugely feel they got somethingfrom buying ipsilon. i always hear about internal struggles toreplace it with linux, and remain thoroughly suprised it hasn'thappened yet. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Ipso? by MarkKnopfler (Score:1) Wednesday November 02, @10:12PMRe:Ipso? by convolvatron (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @10:26PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Other bits (Score:1) by Saiyine (689367) on Wednesday November 02, @08:05PM (#13937417) (http://www.saiyine.com/) The web has a nice design, and a intereting bit at the bottom-right, the announcemente of an OSS browser. Another Gecko-based? [ Reply to ThisRTFL by Saiyine (Score:1) Wednesday November 02, @08:08PMRe:Other bits by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday November 02, @08:09PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Cool, but odd that they didn't use GForge (Score:2) by tcopeland (32225) * <tomNO@SPAMinfoether.com> on Wednesday November 02, @08:09PM (#13937436) (http://tomcopeland.home.mindspring.com/) Seems perfect for Nokia, especially since newer versions of GForge [gforge.org] have a SOAP API; they could have shown some examples of a Nokia phone accessing GForge via a little proxy or some such.And GForge certainly could handle the load; check out the numbers on some of the bigger installations on the list of public GForge sites [gforge.org]. [ Reply to This GroupThink Alert! (Score:2, Funny) by 42Penguins (861511) on Wednesday November 02, @08:12PM (#13937460) The OSS browser supports DRM, oh noes!What category does Nokia go in now that they have a open source site?Are they formerly evil turned good, like IBM? (wait...do we like ibm this week?)Or are they the antichrist, posing as good?Most. Confusing. Finns. Ever. [ Reply to This looks promising (Score:4, Insightful) by idlake (850372) on Wednesday November 02, @08:18PM (#13937506) Maemo looks great, both technically and the way they are going about setting it up. I particularly like the fact that they have built their environment on top of X11, which means that it will be much easier to port custom software to it than with Qt/Embedded devices.Python for the S60 is nice, too, of course.Altogether, I'm wondering whether Nokia is planning on moving their entire phone line over to Linux at some point. [ Reply to ThisRe:looks promising by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @08:24PM Not everything (Score:2, Informative) by JuniorJack (737202) on Wednesday November 02, @08:27PM (#13937553) I am still waiting to see the FPS-10 service box sources, that is entirely based on Linux kernel. For people that have no idea, this box is sold by Nokia to their authorized service centers and is used to repair/tune/check faults inall Nokia mobile handsets. [ Reply to This For downloading anything.. (Score:2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 02, @08:32PM (#13937574) ..registration is required. Luckily bugmenot has some valid accounts, for example: harryman84/blahblah, kutzooi23/nokianokianokia, bugmenot2/passworded [ Reply to This Where are the hacks? (Score:5, Insightful) by MLopat (848735) on Wednesday November 02, @08:38PM (#13937607) (http://www.lunadevelopment.com/) Oh yeah I'm really excited. I can look at all the cool toys I can't load onto my phone because my local provider has locked them out. Hope they make the site actually useful for us and maybe post a link or two about how to get a cable for a particular Nokia handset and the cracks to circumvent the locking mechanisms installed by the retailers. [ Reply to ThisRe:Where are the hacks? by puto (Score:3) Wednesday November 02, @09:41PMRe:Where are the hacks? by Darkman, Walkin Dude (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @09:45PM nokia is going to loose ground. (Score:1) by CDPatten (907182) on Wednesday November 02, @09:31PM (#13937886) Nokia hasn't come up with a GOOD PDA phone for the business class. Business people are a huge and growing a market for both carriers and handset makers. The reason being is, unlike the average user, they drop $600 at the drop of a hat for the latest and greatest. They buy the toys to go with it too. And they get premium voice/data plans.I like OSS don't get me wrong, but so far the push to put OSS platforms on phones has been pretty unimpressive. Even Nokia's brief attempt with the Linux device they came out with over the summer (or was it spring?) was pretty useless. If they don't start offering some products like rim, treo, or even windows mobile, they are going to miss a pretty big market... eventually loosing their number 1 spot in the world.They already are declining, and I don't see this site helping their core business. It almost seems like a hail marry to get some good press, and make it look like they are pioneers. It looks to me like they are betting this part of their business on OSS developers, but the vast majority of the developers have real full time jobs, and do the work on their free time. A company this large shouldn't edge their bets on the hope people will pick up their software as their hobby.Its a "cool" idea, but hoping the oss community helps their lackluster business platform is not the best strategy for their shareholders. I know allot of the zealots think this is an attack on OSS, it really is not, its an attack on Nokia. We all know the rate of most OSS is slow, and nokia is competing against some pretty big guns with a good head start, and lots of resources dumped into make their platforms better.It would be nice to get some responses that aren't just flames or useless 1 liners. I would really rather a good debate. [ Reply to ThisRe:nokia is going to loose ground. by puto (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @09:54PMRe:nokia is going to loose ground. by clymere (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @10:00PMRe:nokia is going to loose ground. by adtifyj (Score:1) Wednesday November 02, @10:14PMRe:nokia is going to loose ground. by Linux Ate My Dog! (Score:2) Wednesday November 02, @10:26PM Nokia's approach (Score:1) by Bulmakau (918237) on Wednesday November 02, @10:10PM (#13938076) Nokia is one of the companies that I really like. I really like their products. Most of what they did so far (that I have seen) was really good. Indeed, they did not come out with a PDA phone (and I believe they wont), but their latest 3G phones have Symbian OS, which supports writing application for their phones. In many senses it is not far from a simple PDA phone. Design is slick and functionality really good. I personally don't see the point yet in 3G and certainly see little value in video chat over the cellular phone, but I think Nokia understands their market very good. Nokia seems to be steering (the company) in the right direction for many years now.I for one can not see myself with a cell phone that is not Nokia.As for their OSS project/site.. I guess its a beginning. Still a very simple and basic site. But I bet it will evolve really soon, really fast. Time will tell if my prediction is right, but to harness the OSS community to develop application to their phones seems like the smart move. Especially with a gadget/tool that we all carry so close and use it (some at least) so much.Thumbs up to Nokia [ Reply to This Are you sure? (Score:1) by labratuk (204918) on Wednesday November 02, @10:13PM (#13938103) Nokia Starts Open Source WebsiteWow! A website? These people are serious. [ Reply to This6 replies beneath your current threshold.