Ant writes "Steve Jobs is the chief executive of two of the most powerful technology brands in the world: Apple and Pixar. But what motivates him? And how does he choose a new washing machine? An article in the Independent explores this much loved and much hated man." From the article: "Alan Deutschmann, a journalist who researched Jobs's middle years for a biography called The Second Coming of Steve Jobs, believes he displays two personalities in his dealings with people: Good Steve and Bad Steve. The Good side is charming, and can make people believe almost anything; that's the side on public view at the rock-star product launches. He's been said to have a 'reality distortion field' - by a mixture of charm and exaggeration, he can make you believe pretty much anything." The Man Behind Apple And Pixar Log in/Create an Account | Top | 301 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 301 comments 0: 285 comments 1: 226 comments 2: 174 comments 3: 66 comments 4: 35 comments 5: 25 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:5, Interesting) by SuperKendall (25149) * on Monday October 31, @01:46AM (#13913128) One of the more interesting paragraphs in an article of otherwise rehashed details this:Jobs is a fiendishly good negotiator, a skill honed in the 1970s, when he charmed every supplier in Silicon Valley into providing parts for the first Apple computers. It's this ability that makes him valuable to Pixar, where Jobs isn't so involved in the production side (that is handled by John Lasseter). Jobs's role was to write the cheques (which nearly bankrupted him, until the company was floated) and barter with film studios. Which he did with accomplishment: Disney gave in to Pixar, and is presently trying to woo it back to a new distribution deal - a deal that Jobs is making Disney give up all sorts of favours for, like providing content in the form of TV shows for his Apple iTunes store. The giant Disney, kowtowing to the tiny Apple? A bizarre reversal.An interesting speculation, which would explain how Jobs was able to get Disney to be the first to put TV on ITMS - anyone remember how scared Disney was of DVD's for quite some time? Uses Pixar as leverage is diabolically clever. And it's even hinted at by the only other non-music video for sale being Pixar shorts. [ Reply to ThisRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by glitch0 (Score:1) Monday October 31, @02:00AM Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:5, Insightful) by johndierks (784521) on Monday October 31, @02:38AM (#13913270) I think technically it would be illegal for Steve to barter a Pixar distribution deal for content for the Apple ITMS, as it would basically boil down to a conflict of interest.Steve is responsible to both sets of share holders, and if he agreed to a give one for the other, he could possibly be robbing one set of share holders to give to the other.I'm not saying that Pixar had nothing to do with the Disney/ITMS deal, but more than anything I think it could only have been a sign of good faith on Disney's side. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:5, Insightful) by aratuk (524269) on Monday October 31, @03:04AM (#13913340) I think it could only have been a sign of good faith on Disney's side. Yes, exactly. Disney knows his personality, and they want Good Steve. Good Steve, only human, is transferable from Apple to Pixar. And it's not like they stand to lose anything selling a few shows on the Internet.Also, I don't think it's necessarily bad for Pixar to have Steve Jobs get buttered up by Disney. Pixar without Disney faces a difficult distribution problem, where either Pixar has to develop the ability to distribute, market, and merchandise its own movies (expensive, risky), or find a new partner (let's face it: who is the master of selling animated movies to children?). Pixar has probably just been holding out for Disney to offer a better deal. Or maybe they'll just sell all future movies through iTunes... after all, no overhead. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by Stormwatch (Score:2) Monday October 31, @06:25AM Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:5, Insightful) by LocoMan (744414) on Monday October 31, @08:56AM (#13914527) (http://www.locoman3d.com/) Lilo and Stitch (80 millions budget, made 145 millions in the USA) and I think Brother Bear too (don't have numbers at hand, but I remember hearing that it broke even in the US but made a nice profit worldwide and is popular on video). But of course, Eisner couldn't have movies that broke the standards by actually making a profit, so he shut down the Orlando animation facility after those. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by PGC (Score:1) Monday October 31, @01:18PMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by Gulthek (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:14PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.I really doubt that by Ender Ryan (Score:2) Monday October 31, @07:55AMRe:I really doubt that by pz (Score:2) Monday October 31, @08:07AMRe:I really doubt that by Jeff DeMaagd (Score:2) Monday October 31, @08:52AMRe:I really doubt that by niktemadur (Score:3) Monday October 31, @10:03AMRe:I really doubt that by Thangodin (Score:2) Monday October 31, @11:01AMRe:I really doubt that by vought (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:27PMRe:I really doubt that by mkiwi (Score:1) Monday October 31, @09:34PMRe:I really doubt that by dubl-u (Score:1) Monday October 31, @01:10PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by dfghjk (Score:2) Monday October 31, @10:07AMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by Moofie (Score:1) Monday October 31, @12:31PMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by dubl-u (Score:1) Monday October 31, @12:53PMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by MichaelSmith (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:46AM Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:4, Interesting) by nmb3000 (741169) <nmb3000@that-google-mail-site.com> on Monday October 31, @04:26AM (#13913520) (http://www.khaaan.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday October 29, @12:42AM) Uses Pixar as leverage is diabolically clever.But Microsoft using it's market share as leverage against South Korea is evil?Oh, wait. I forgot we were talking about Apple. Steve Jobs could kidnap and use Eisner's grandbabies as leverage against Disney and it would still be "diabolically clever". [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by 1u3hr (Score:3) Monday October 31, @04:50AM Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:5, Interesting) by jeffehobbs (419930) on Monday October 31, @06:45AM (#13913921) (http://ldopa.net/) Diabolical is not a compliment.However, when paired with the phrase "clever", it actually is. Context is really very important.~jeff [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by 1u3hr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @11:31AM Re:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage (Score:4, Insightful) by jeffehobbs (419930) on Monday October 31, @07:21AM (#13914017) (http://ldopa.net/) We are in violent agreement; if you were into killing mass quantities of people as efficiently and as cheaply as possible, then all those examples you cited would indeed be "diabolically clever". With this phrase we are not judging the *morality* of the cleverness, but instead merely saying that when paired with the word "clever", "diabolically" gains a appreciatively positive context.~jeff [ Reply to This | ParentRe: "diabolically" is harmless here by Dystopian Rebel (Score:2) Monday October 31, @08:46AMRe: "diabolically" is harmless here by steeviant (Score:2) Monday October 31, @09:33AMRe: "diabolically" is harmless here by Dystopian Rebel (Score:1) Monday October 31, @10:55AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Now what makes you think it was meant that way? by SuperKendall (Score:2) Monday October 31, @01:17PMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by Lars T. (Score:2) Monday October 31, @09:40AMNothing clever about using a club by SuperKendall (Score:2) Monday October 31, @01:39PMRe:Nothing clever about using a club by Kadin2048 (Score:2) Tuesday November 01, @12:04AMOh, for crying out loud.. by jcr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @05:53AMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by Anonymous Coward (Score:3) Monday October 31, @09:56AMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by dogmatixpsych (Score:1) Monday October 31, @12:02PMRe:Interesting paragraph, using Pixar as leverage by timster (Score:3) Monday October 31, @01:31PM Flipsides (Score:5, Interesting) by Space cowboy (13680) * on Monday October 31, @01:48AM (#13913133) (Last Journal: Thursday July 07, @07:37PM) Walk around the campus at Microsoft, or across to Cafe Macs in Cupertino, and you come across the same sort of casual arrogance - both sets of employees generally (there are exceptions :-) think they're in the best place to be.In Microsoft's case, it's because they're the most successful computer company in the world, bar none. That they're on pretty much every desktop (or at least 90% or so of them), and that what they do, matters. Microsoft is all to do with preserving and increasing that user-base, and delivering what (mainly business) requires to do so.In Apple's case, it's more insidious (possibly that's being harsh, perhaps 'subtle') - Apple engineers think they make the best computers. Bar none. They don't think they're the most popular (there's an implied 'yet' in that statement), but they do think they're the best. Apple is all to do with ease-of-use, attention-to-detail, and a good experience. They invest thought.Some of the Apple attitude comes from having the potential for Steve Jobs to "take an interest" in your project. You *really* want it to measure up, if he does, and Mr. Jobs (to you!) is a perfectionist. This does keep people on their toes, but I wonder how often it *really* happens.There's more though - the 'ease-of-use' is a mantra to the Apple employees I've met. They really care how their software is perceived, and I think it shows in the product. Sure, there are business decisions that override engineering wishes, but it seems to be less the case at Apple than anywhere else. I think that comes from the top (SJ) as well.For me, back then, Apple computers sucked big time before OS-X came out. The focus of the company was pointed in a different direction. Now they woo techies, artists, movie-people, graphics designers, and business (with the 'office' suite) alike. For me, now, an OS-X machine with 2 cinema-displays is the best damn unix workstation I've ever used, and I've been using Linux since it came on floppies, Irix (ok, that was a close second), SunOS, Solaris, HPUX, etc...I personally think SJ has done well - long may he continue, especially as I have some stock in the company I bought a while back when it was a lot lower :-)Simon. [ Reply to This Re:Flipsides (Score:5, Interesting) by TheGSRGuy (901647) on Monday October 31, @02:08AM (#13913191) "Walk around the campus at Microsoft, or across to Cafe Macs in Cupertino, and you come across the same sort of casual arrogance - both sets of employees generally (there are exceptions :-) think they're in the best place to be." So? What's wrong with taking pride in the company you work for? I applaud someone who respects the company they work for. There's countless white-collar jobs that are staffed by people who downright hate the company they work for and can't agree with a single part of the corporate statement. Those with the good attitudes are the most productive and best employees. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Flipsides (Score:5, Interesting) by ankarbass (882629) on Monday October 31, @02:25AM (#13913232) (Last Journal: Sunday October 30, @02:30AM) I don't think that the OP was saying there was anything wrong with it, just that it's the culture of those places. It sounded more to me like he was drawing some parallels between working for MS and Apple.I think he was further suggesting that the culture is perhaps a bit larger than life, that is, Jobs doesn't walk up to your cubicle all that often to see what you are doing even though people stay on their toes because they expect it might happen. Or, they wish it would happen...oh pick me Mr Jobs!!!I can't imagine development at either job place is low pressure. But, I can't imagine too many places other places where the opportunity has so much potential either. Not that I'd work at either place, it's just not my cup of tea. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Flipsides by lrucker (Score:1) Monday October 31, @02:09PMRe:Flipsides by Bloke down the pub (Score:1) Monday October 31, @04:44AMRe:Flipsides by cbreaker (Score:2) Monday October 31, @10:22AM Re:Flipsides (Score:4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 31, @02:08AM (#13913193) In an interesting interview with Bob Cringely on NerdTV, Dave Winer calls Bill Gates "our generation's tragic figure". His reasoning is that Bill Gates is the son who was not going to repeat the same mistake of the father, IBM.If Bill Gates lived the life of the tragic figure, Steve Jobs is living the life of the classic hero. Banished and left for the dustbin of computer history, Jobs returns to Apple, after many years of isolation, and became Apple's savior. [ Reply to This | Parent Full of Shit (Score:5, Interesting) by David Off (101038) on Monday October 31, @02:59AM (#13913330) (http://www.abcseo.com/) Back around the Gulf war Cringely made another observation about the duo which I like. He said Gates was like the Sultan of Kuwait, not wanting the boat rocked and milking the profits from his empire. Jobs was like Hussein, firing his revolver in the air in front of a crowd of fanatics and telling the rest of the world that they are "full of shit".If you want a very good book about Apple [apple2history.org] up to the time of Sculley and Jobs' early years try to get hold of The Journey is the Reward [amazon.com] by Jeffery Young. West of Eden, the End of Innocence at Apple Computer [amazon.com] by Frank Rose is also another good book at this time. Oh, and if you want a laff read Sculley's book Odyssey [amazon.com] - a more talentless f*ck and bigger blowhard you could not wish to hire to ruin your business, the guy obviously only made it by marrying the boss's daughter. Sculley is all that is wrong with corporate America. The book must rank with "The Road Ahead" as the deranged ramblings of someone who just didn't get it. :-) [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Full of Shit (Score:4, Funny) by spiderbitendeath (577712) on Monday October 31, @07:45AM (#13914122) (http://nixbox.sytes.net/bw42/) Hey, The Road Ahead is a great book. I use it to keep my window propped up on those warm summer nights. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Full of Shit by sedyn (Score:2) Monday October 31, @11:40AMRe:Full of Shit by nigel_q (Score:1) Monday October 31, @12:47PMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by putko (Score:3) Monday October 31, @02:24AMThe Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:31AMRe:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by humina (Score:2) Monday October 31, @03:09AMRe:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by Tayssir John Gabbour (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:53AM Re:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) (Score:4, Insightful) by clifyt (11768) <[sonikmatter] [at] [gmail.com]> on Monday October 31, @08:44AM (#13914454) (http://sonikmatter.com/) "PS- I don't hate mac users. I just hate the ones that walk around with a false sense of superiority."Much like someone that would give up a perfectly good machine for one that is running an OS that is considered experimental at best on Laptops just for the cache it provides them?You mean those kinda people?I use Linux all the time...hell, I use it to run several servers for my business based around supporting Apple's pro line for the beautiful folk (well, so they say, the fuckers I deal with are as ugly as they get :-) [ Reply to This | Parent1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by putko (Score:2) Monday October 31, @03:50AMRe:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by Ath (Score:2) Monday October 31, @09:06AMRe:The Apple Demographic (Re:Flipsides [Unix boy]) by itwerx (Score:2) Monday October 31, @11:20AM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:Flipsides [Unix boy] by be-fan (Score:3) Monday October 31, @03:18AM Re:Flipsides [Unix boy] (Score:5, Informative) by cpt kangarooski (3773) on Monday October 31, @03:37AM (#13913390) (http://slashdot.org/) Their insistence on the "resource" fork always struck me as idiotic: data is data. If it is in a file, it is a bunch of bytes (or even blocks of bytes) -- no need to have separate "meta" information.Resource forks are sensible given their purpose: to allow strings, in-program graphics, sounds, etc. to be tweaked without having to recompile or have necessary files outside of the application itself.This way localization and some UI changes could be made without having to know how to change the source directly. Translators that can program are more costly than translators that can fiddle with ResEdit. Early on it was also hoped that files could use them productively (e.g. a text file that was raw text in the data fork, so that lesser systems could still read it, but with formatting in the resource fork) but this didn't really work out.Application bundles (folders that masquerade as actual programs, and contain all the various resources in separate files) are a different way of accomplishing the same goal, basically. They're not quite as good, since they're known to break and revert back to behaving like folders, but it's better than what you see on other platforms.At any rate, given that you seem to actually be complaining about metadata, this indicates that you have no idea what a resource fork is and probably never seriously used a Mac. Metadata (which is invaluable) is known on pretty much all platforms to one degree or another. Filenames, permissions, modification dates -- these are all metadata, and may or may not be portable across platforms. The Mac had some additional metadata -- custom icons, file types, which app should open a particular file, etc. -- and it improved the usability of the system. Frankly, we could do with yet more.Of course, if you like to tell software what sectors on the disk to read instead of using filenames, which are metadata, more power to you. But most people aren't that crazy.That drove me nuts -- it meant you couldn't easily make tools (as in any Unix environment), because you had to be willing to do resource fork stuff.Meh. As a rule of thumb, doing a task in software takes a set amount of work. The more work that the programmer does once, the less work that the user will have to do repeatedly. So programming should be comparatively hard, in order to make use quite easy.Now, the form of use that consists of creating more tools should also be easy, but that requires a hell of a lot of work by programmers to make it so. Recently, Apple has put out Automator, which is handy, but still needs significant work. Applescript was an interesting attempt, but really didn't work out well for most people. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Flipsides [Unix boy] (Score:5, Informative) by DLWormwood (154934) <wormwood AT ameritech DOT net> on Monday October 31, @03:45AM (#13913407) (Last Journal: Wednesday June 08, @09:28AM) Their insistence on the "resource" fork always struck me as idiotic: data is data. If it is in a file, it is a bunch of bytes (or even blocks of bytes) -- no need to have separate "meta" information."Insistence" is really the wrong word. After Jobs' return, many of the NeXT developers tried to deprecate such traditional Mac-isms, but the established Mac developer base, as well as many users (especially in the publishing/graphic arts marketspace), balked.The original point of the resource fork was to provide a system wide "poor man's database" so that any arbitrary application or data file could have arbitrary tagged data appended to it without breaking or confusing apps that originally read the file. For example, to add publishing keywords to a graphics file in its data fork, you have to worry if you are working with a EPS, JPEG, PSD, TIFF or whatever. Each file format has it's own way of storing metadata and added info that are mostly incompatible with each other. However, assuming you are in a mostly Mac-based shop, you can simply add a "IPTC" resource to the file's resource fork, and you have added keyword data without worrying about the contents or exact format of the file in question, even if it's a file format yet to be invented.After the early virus problems with System 4-6 OSes, Apple tried to start migrating away from resources to trying to develop a form of "universal container" file format. QuickTime's MOV format and disk images are two such stabs. However, this doesn't solve the compatiblity problem with the "outside world" since that just moves the problem from trying to NOT ignore a secondary data stream (that is, the resource fork) to the problem of insuring all file I/O goes through a "standard container file access" library. it meant you couldn't easily make tools (as in any Unix environment), because you had to be willing to do resource fork stuff. That sort of thing convinced me that the Mac was half-baked, and I should just stick to BSD-derived OSes.OS X is more or less a BSD-variant. It has more in common with a BSD than the System V derived UNIXes like Linux is alleged to be. As for the tool making problem, under recent OS X releases, you can treat the resource fork of a file like a subdirectory named "/rsrc" in most contexts. This is similar to what Windows needs to access NTFS stream data. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by putko (Score:3) Monday October 31, @04:01AM Re:Flipsides [Unix boy] (Score:5, Interesting) by DLWormwood (154934) <wormwood AT ameritech DOT net> on Monday October 31, @04:29AM (#13913534) (Last Journal: Wednesday June 08, @09:28AM) somehow they Mac-juju didn't stick to them permanently (if it ever did). I just assumed they'd all drunk Steve Job's Kool Aid.If you read the article or read some of the other threads here, you'd see reference to the fact that Steve's "reality distortion field" quickly wears off when he stops talking.For the record, I love the Mac platform not because of Apple, but in spite of them. When I first got exposed to HyperCard and QuickDraw/QuickTime and the OS's prior lack of command line, the OS seems like the "OS of tommorow" to me. OS X's embracing of various UNIX and Windows technologies feels to me like going back to "primative times" to me; I'm really surprised by the cultural inertia of the command line and the flat file system. It feels like that I'm dealing with things that I'd thought I'd left behind after using TRS-80's, TI-99/4a's, and VAXen in my distant past... I'm surprised that they've still got the resource stuff in there -- in the form of "/rsrc". But I guess you can't break all the old apps that need it.Besides the "rsrc" path extension trick, Apple introduced the "file package" concept where a directory of files is presented to the end user as a single "file" in the Finder. Such a package can store Carbon accessable resource data as flat files easily portable to Unix/Windows systems, although they still need special treatment to read the specially formatted data within. Also, when saving Mac files on non-HFS systems, the Mac OS will create "dot underscore" files next to the original data files. This behavior drives many server admins nuts, I've been told. it is interesting to hear your take on Quicktime.My take's unusual because I've rarely used QT for it's "intended purpose." QuickTime is a "layer," not a "player." It's a comprehensive API and set of routines for processing media (time-based, static, and even algorithmic like sprites and MIDI) related metadata and processing. Its design intention is more encompansing of functionality than Windows Media or Real. It also, sadly, a much older procedural API, so it doesn't mesh well with Cocoa development and can feel backwords when trying to use QuickTime within a modern OOP development environment. With the fading away of multimedia CDs and what not, iTunes and the iPod are the only thing keeping QT in widespread use.That said, my perpective may be a little off from consensus; I wasn't using them when the Macs were first released (those TRS-80's remember? (-;). You might get a better insight into what made the Mac and its surrounding culture so facinating by visiting the quasi-blog site called Folklore.org [folklore.org]; lots of Mac development information straight from the developer's keyboards. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:Flipsides [Unix boy] (Score:4, Informative) by tciny (783938) on Monday October 31, @06:43AM (#13913918) >> With the fading away of multimedia CDs and what not, iTunes and the iPod are the only thing keeping QT in widespread use.When looking at the movie/effects etc. industry you will find that QuickTime is by far the most popular way to encode Video. Especially because of all the different codecs supported by default (Pixlet, H264, Animation/Lossless). It's the only format I know of that supports such a wide range of ecoding methods and where you can be absolutely sure that when another person has this package installed, it WILL work. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by ShieldW0lf (Score:2) Monday October 31, @10:53AMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by tim1724 (Score:2) Monday October 31, @03:17PMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by HappyMeal (Score:1) Monday October 31, @04:21AMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by DLWormwood (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:08PMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by nine-times (Score:3) Monday October 31, @09:59AMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by abb3w (Score:3) Monday October 31, @11:32AMRe:Flipsides [Unix boy] by BorgCopyeditor (Score:2) Monday October 31, @03:08PMRe:Flipsides by Saven Marek (Score:1) Monday October 31, @03:30AMRe:Flipsides by HappyMeal (Score:1) Monday October 31, @04:27AMRe:Flipsides by jcr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @05:59AMRe:Flipsides by Space cowboy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @11:19AMRe:Flipsides by Braino420 (Score:1) Monday October 31, @11:57AMRe:Flipsides by Braino420 (Score:1) Monday October 31, @11:59AMRe:Flipsides by jcr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:13PMRe:Flipsides by mikael (Score:2) Monday October 31, @07:31AMWhat is OS-X? by Overly Critical Guy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @10:04AMRe:What is OS-X? by Braino420 (Score:1) Monday October 31, @12:01PMRe:What is OS-X? by Overly Critical Guy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @12:43PMWell, it's 'Mac OS X', Dummy! by Space cowboy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:05PMRe:Well, it's 'Mac OS X', Dummy! by Kadin2048 (Score:2) Tuesday November 01, @12:46AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Flipsides by xenoandroid (Score:1) Monday October 31, @10:35AMRe:Flipsides by Space cowboy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @01:52PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Not to mention the easiest halloween costume ever (Score:4, Funny) by antifoidulus (807088) on Monday October 31, @01:51AM (#13913142) (http://slashdot.org???? | Last Journal: Friday March 11, @09:17PM) Dressing up as Steve Jobs is not only the easiest to make Halloween costume ever(Black turtleneck and jeans), you can also wear the costume to work at a lot of places! [ Reply to This Re:Not to mention the easiest halloween costume ev (Score:4, Funny) by FidelCatsro (861135) * <.moc.liamg. .ta. .orstacledif.> on Monday October 31, @01:59AM (#13913160) (Last Journal: Monday October 31, @08:33PM) A Ballmer costume is not that hard either http://www.bryanshulkpage.com/Images/s20007.jpg [bryanshulkpage.com](SF W) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Not to mention the easiest halloween costume ev by glitch0 (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:02AMRe:Not to mention the easiest halloween costume ev by lightknight (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:24AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Not to mention the easiest halloween costume ev by John Miles (Score:3) Monday October 31, @02:12AM Reality distortion field... (Score:4, Funny) by Shanep (68243) on Monday October 31, @02:03AM (#13913175) (http://slashdot.org/) He's been said to have a 'reality distortion field' - by a mixture of charm and exaggeration, he can make you believe pretty much anything.I hear that it is even said, that he has managed, with the use of this "reality distortion field", to make many people believe that Apple systems have had far fewer virus, security and stability problems!A little known secret, is that Apple sells this so called "reality distortion field" [apple.com] here. [apple.com] [ Reply to ThisRe:Reality distortion field... by jcr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @05:49AMRe:Reality distortion field... by Listen Up (Score:2) Monday October 31, @12:06PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. What motivates him? (Score:2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 31, @02:07AM (#13913186) Money. [ Reply to This Re:What motivates him? (Score:5, Informative) by JJSpreij (84475) on Monday October 31, @03:33AM (#13913382) Jobs could be milking Apple for a lot more than $1 per year, if he was really motivated by money....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs [wikipedia.org]Jobs worked at Apple for several years with an annual salary of $1, and this earned him a listing in Guinness World Records as the "Lowest Paid Chief Executive Officer". At the 2001 keynote speech of Macworld Expo in San Francisco, the company dropped the "interim" from his title. His current salary at Apple officially remains $1 per year, although he has traditionally been the recipient of a number of lucrative "executive gifts" from the board, including a $90 million jet in 1999, and just under 30 million shares of restricted stock in 2000-2002. As such, Jobs is well compensated for his efforts at Apple despite the nominal one-dollar salary. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What motivates him? by gordo3000 (Score:2) Monday October 31, @12:52PMRe:What motivates him? by anothy (Score:2) Monday October 31, @10:21AM Apple Distortion Field. (Score:2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 31, @02:07AM (#13913187) "He's been said to have a 'reality distortion field' - by a mixture of charm and exaggeration, he can make you believe pretty much anything."Granny smith Apples are NOT better than golden delicious. [ Reply to ThisRe:Apple Distortion Field. by Carewolf (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:05AMRe:Apple Distortion Field. by Simon Garlick (Score:2) Monday October 31, @07:59PMRe:Apple Distortion Field. by LardBrattish (Score:2) Monday October 31, @04:05AM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Apple Store (Score:5, Insightful) by Snuggly_Soft (647073) on Monday October 31, @02:14AM (#13913204) Everyone, including the author of this article, seems to forget the apple store in describing the second coming of Jobs. iPod and iTunes have been a boon for apple, but no one cares to speculate about how much a 'mall presence' had to do with any of it...IMO, the store isn't a footnote here, it's a keystone. [ Reply to ThisRe:Apple Store by Jeff DeMaagd (Score:2) Monday October 31, @08:12AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Jesus, again with the washing machine? (Score:5, Insightful) by SensitiveMale (155605) on Monday October 31, @02:15AM (#13913205) How many times does Jobs' procedure to buy a washing machine have to be covered? [ Reply to ThisRe:Jesus, again with the washing machine? by jred (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:33AMRe:Jesus, again with the washing machine? by JJSpreij (Score:1) Monday October 31, @03:50AMRe:Jesus, again with the washing machine? by zpok (Score:2) Monday October 31, @02:38AM Re:Jesus, again with the washing machine? (Score:5, Funny) by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile AT mindless DOT com> on Monday October 31, @02:58AM (#13913325) (Last Journal: Sunday May 01, @10:12PM) You're missing the point: its not how he buys a washing machine thats interesting, its the mere fact that he's a nerd and actually wants a washing machine, and even knows what they're for. [ Reply to This | Parent1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Jesus, again with the washing machine? by jcr (Score:2) Monday October 31, @06:03AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. iWash (Score:2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 31, @02:21AM (#13913222) He has rejected every washing machine because their names didn't sound right.Oh, and you didn't see that scratch on your ipod. These are not the scratches you are looking for. [ Reply to This