Wannabe Code Monkey writes "Forbes has an article about a recent MySQL deal with SCO and the reaction from the open source community: "It's been a rough week for Marten Mickos, the chief executive of open source database maker MySQL AB. First his most dreaded rival, Oracle acquired a company that supplies a key piece of MySQL's software, a move that could make life difficult for Uppsala, Sweden-based MySQL, which has the most popular open source database. If that wasn't bad enough, Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community because last month he dared to make a deal with SCO Group, a company reviled by fans of Linux and other open source software.""Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='linuxbiz';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; The Ups and Downs of MySQL AB Log in/Create an Account | Top | 210 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 210 comments 0: 203 comments 1: 158 comments 2: 119 comments 3: 33 comments 4: 15 comments 5: 8 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Confused about licensing (Score:2) by dada21 (163177) * <dada@d n g i nc.com> on Saturday October 15, @11:27AM (#13797356) I'm confused. Even if SCO acquires a component, isn't the final F/OSS release of that component still F/OSS per the GPL or whatever license it was released with?Take said component and keep refining it.If this is a future worry, adapt the license so that other OSS components remain OSS if future versions are commercialized. [ Reply to This Re:Confused about licensing (Score:4, Interesting) by BVis (267028) on Saturday October 15, @11:32AM (#13797383) If taking SCO's money is what keeps the product viable, and if the final product is still F/OSS, who really gives a hoot? SCO's money spends just as easy as anything else, and the OSS community hasn't lost anything.We don't live in a world of moral absolutes. Businesses sometimes have to be practical at the expense of muddying the moral waters. I'm sure that if they could have avoided even taking SCO's calls they would have, but taking the money enables them to be a going concern.Besides, the more SCO spends, the faster they will inevitably go out of business, so that can only be a good thing, right? [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Confused about licensing by jadavis (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @12:51PMRe:Confused about licensing by bani (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @08:23PMRe:Confused about licensing by toddbu (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @01:14PMRe:Confused about licensing by steve_l (Score:2) Sunday October 16, @06:32AM Re:Confused about licensing (Score:5, Interesting) by team99parody (880782) on Saturday October 15, @11:35AM (#13797406) (http://slashdot.org/...=109&tid=149&tid=201) The problem is that MySQL's business depended on a dual-licensing model where they selling a proprietary-licensed version of MySQL.Sure, they could keep using the GPL'd InnoDB in the GPL'd version of MySQL; but they can not incorporate the GPL'd InnoDB in the proprietary MySQL.Ironically, if Oracle insisted that future supported versions of InnoDB only be released as a GPL'd work - it could be one of the greates things for MySQL-the-GPL'd-product and one of the worst things to MySQL-the-company. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Confused about licensing by jadavis (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @12:28PMRe:Confused about licensing by petermgreen (Score:2) Sunday October 16, @03:51PM Learn from the IBM case. (Score:5, Insightful) by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Saturday October 15, @11:44AM (#13797452) MySQL AB has all the licenses to MySQL.They release it under a dual license.Now they're accepting SCO money to "partner" with them to develop MySQL so it works better on SCO's server software.Now, do a quick search for SCO & IBM & "Project Monterey". See the parallels? And SCO has sued THREE partners/customers over code use.The question will come down to what contracts cover what money being spent in what ways to write what code and who owns what rights to what code.Personally, I see this as just a way for SCO go try to get possession of the MySQL code base. Only an idiot would sign a developmental contract with SCO after everything that's been revealed from the court cases. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Learn from the IBM case. by swillden (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @12:12PM Re:Learn from the IBM case. (Score:4, Insightful) by twiddlingbits (707452) on Saturday October 15, @12:53PM (#13797771) "No matter how insane the SCO management is, lawyers aren't going to take on a case they're not going to get paid for."WRONG..it's called a Contingency case, they win they get paid, they lose they get nothing. This approach is very common in personal injury lawsuits.The SCO case is a hybrid of this where Boise-Schiller took company stock as part of the fee, they win and the price goes up and they clean up, they lose SCO goes under they get only the cash part of the compensation.Anyone getting involved that deeply with SCO must have a screw loose, SCO is just crazy enough to sue mySQL in hopes of keeping themselves alive a bit longer even after they lose to IBM (and appeal of course). [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Learn from the IBM case. by inode_buddha (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @02:04PMRe:Learn from the IBM case. by twiddlingbits (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @02:19PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Not quite.... by einhverfr (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @07:47PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Learn from the IBM case. by AnObfuscator (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @01:04PMRe:Learn from the IBM case. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @01:58PMRe:Learn from the IBM case. by Bloke down the pub (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @05:02PMRe:Learn from the IBM case. by MikeBabcock (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:08PMRe:Learn from the IBM case. by rm69990 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:19PMThe bigger problem by einhverfr (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:00PMRe:The bigger problem by emj (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @10:16PMRe:The bigger problem by rtb61 (Score:2) Sunday October 16, @01:48AMRe:The bigger problem by einhverfr (Score:2) Monday October 17, @01:15PM Bah! (Score:3, Insightful) by TerminaMorte (729622) on Saturday October 15, @11:31AM (#13797380) (http://www.unhandledexceptions.com/) If that wasn't bad enough, Mickos is being denounced as a traitor by noisy fanatics in the open source software community because last month he dared to make a deal with SCO Group, a company reviled by fans of Linux and other open source software."     Next on Forbes: How much negativity can we pack into one sentence? Find out! [ Reply to Thisanother error by redcone (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @11:53AM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Groklaw Interviews MySQL AB CEO Marten Mickos (Score:5, Informative) by anandpur (303114) on Saturday October 15, @11:31AM (#13797381) (http://dilse.net/happy/) http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200510112 11450706 [groklaw.net]* no money went to SCO from MySQL, so MySQL is not supporting SCO financially* it was SCO seeking out the partnership, not the other way around* MySQL had stopped supporting SCO in 2004* MySQL did not put out the press release about the partnership. Mickos did provide a quotation for the press release however. Here's the press release in question, taken from MySQL's web site. http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/news/article_ 948.html [mysql.com] [ Reply to ThisRe:Groklaw Interviews MySQL AB CEO Marten Mickos by iggymanz (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @11:42AMINDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by backslashdot (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @11:51AMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @12:43PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by machineghost (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @01:01PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by AnObfuscator (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @01:33PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @01:52PM Re:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? (Score:5, Informative) by jadavis (473492) on Saturday October 15, @01:48PM (#13798018) PostgreSQL. A short list of benefits:- MVCC reduces need for locking, often called "better than row-level locking"- Also has row level locking- ACID compliant- transactions, and savepoints (which are SQL nested transactions)- point in time recovery (PITR) allows "time-travel" and parallel timelines. It's a little much to explain here, but if you encounter a problem and notice it a week later, you can go back in time, prevent the problem, and replay everything else that happened that week. All the good and none of the bad from a sci-fi book :)- VERY extensible: you can make user-defined functions in any of PL/pgSQL, PL/perl, PL/python, PL/java, C, or SQL. And if that's not enough, you can write another procedural language to support your favorite language.- You can make a user-defined aggregate function using any of those languages.- User-defined types- triggers- views- subselects- query rewriting rules (which can be used to make any view updatable/insertable)- constraints- good, well-maintained, and BSD licensed replication software available.New in 8.1 (which is beta now):- Two-phase commit (2PC)- IN/OUT/INOUT parameters to functions- rudimentary table partitioning- bitmap index scans- autovacuum intelligently automates a long standing maintenence procedure, making the database easier to administer.- SQL ROLES- more options for row-level locking [ Reply to This | ParentRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by mpcooke3 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @08:51PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @09:11PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @09:16PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.2 replies beneath your current threshold.ibFirebird by leonbrooks (Score:2) Tuesday October 18, @10:35AMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by AnObfuscator (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @01:43PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by Maestro4k (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @08:30PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by unixfan (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @11:58PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by fbg111 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @05:21PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by rm69990 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:25PMRe:INDEMNITY? Will SCO sue us some day? by rm69990 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:28PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:Groklaw Interviews MySQL AB CEO Marten Mickos (Score:4, Insightful) by tyler_larson (558763) on Saturday October 15, @12:24PM (#13797641) (http://www.tlarson.com/) The backlash against MySQL for dealing with SCO is harsh, probably unwarranted, but, most importantly, very effective at conveying the desired message: don't talk to SCO. Don't even return their phone calls.SCO, you remember, is a UNIX company--they don't write all their own software, which is why their OS is POSIX. They absolutely rely on cooperation with the community to make their product marketable.Now, they're blacklisted. Companies and projects that use community-driven models (or even market to such organizations) are clearly and unequivocally forbidden to associate in any way with SCO. It's just not worth risking the sort of backlash that hit MySQL. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Groklaw Interviews MySQL AB CEO Marten Mickos by Saeed al-Sahaf (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @03:42PMRe:Groklaw Interviews MySQL AB CEO Marten Mickos by killjoe (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @05:30PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Let their money be drained (Score:2, Funny) by schestowitz (843559) on Saturday October 15, @11:32AM (#13797387) (http://schestowitz.com/) Gosh, SCO have not run out of money yet? I thought the Web site implied they have: http://www.linuxstolescocode.com/ [linuxstolescocode.com] (hint: see error page). [ Reply to This MySQL has some business strategy... (Score:1, Insightful) by koh (124962) on Saturday October 15, @11:37AM (#13797411) (Last Journal: Friday March 11, @08:17PM) 1) Sell out to SCO,2) Have Oracle buy the most feature-full database implementation we managed to get our hands on,3) Piss off Open Source users,4) Kill off PHP (since it's the only thing that still gets us going...)5) ...6) DEFICIT! [ Reply to ThisRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by Directrix1 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @11:55AMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by CptWheel (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @01:31PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by jadavis (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @02:04PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by CptWheel (Score:1) Sunday October 16, @06:03AMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by jadavis (Score:2) Monday October 17, @07:12PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by CptWheel (Score:1) Tuesday October 18, @11:17AMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by Directrix1 (Score:2) Monday October 17, @10:16AMRe:MOD PARENT DOWN by CptWheel (Score:1) Sunday October 16, @05:37AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:MySQL has some business strategy... by MemoryDragon (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @12:02PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by gidds (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @03:58PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by bani (Score:2) Monday October 17, @05:41AMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by HiThere (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @04:14PMRe:MySQL has some business strategy... by bani (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @08:41PM a key piece ?? (Score:2, Informative) by six (1673) on Saturday October 15, @11:41AM (#13797429) (http://si.kz/) Although InnoDB is quite a niece piece of work, I wouldn't call it a key piece of the MySQL server software. It is just one of the *many* storage backends supported by MySQL, and it's not by far the most used (99% of the MySQL installs i've seen only use the internally developped MyISAM storage engine which btw is the default one ...And btw, people who need transactions and advanced features tend to use postgresql instead of mysql+innodb ... [ Reply to This yep (Score:5, Insightful) by kpharmer (452893) on Saturday October 15, @12:22PM (#13797632) > Although InnoDB is quite a niece piece of work, I wouldn't call it a key piece of the MySQL server> software. It is just one of the *many* storage backends supported by MySQL, and it's not by far> the most used (99% of the MySQL installs i've seen only use the internally developped MyISAM> storage engine which btw is the default one ...I think that's primarily due to all the legacy 3.* mysql databases out there: not because people are running 4.01 and want to keep using myisam.There are legitimate times to use myisam, but aside from read-only reporting (which mysql isn't very good at), or very high-volume read-mostly content management that's about it. Backends for tools like bugzilla, for wikis, etc should be on innodb:    - it's easier to develop the app (don't have to reinvent transactions)    - the application code is more portable    - you avoid data corruption problems problems with buggy do-it-yourself transaction code    - you get to rely on declarative referential integrity to help ensure that 100% of the data in the database complies with the rules of the model> And btw, people who need transactions and advanced features tend to use postgresql instead of mysql+innodb ...true - anyone who knows enough about databases to know why they should be using transactions also knows why they should be using views, stored procedures (occasionally), triggers (occasionally), and have an optimizer capable of joining 5 tables without a performance hit.If mysql looses innodb they are in very deep trouble. Before they licensed innodb, MySQL AB insisted that:    - 99% of the programmers didn't need transactions    - that "real programmers" could easily write that code themselves in the app layer    - that all quality checks (pk/fk constraints) belonged in the app layer anywayOnce they licensed innodb they changed that tune completely    - declaring themselves an "Enterprise Database"    - the only database people needed    - bragged about their fast paced development (even tho it was purchasing not development)    - buried all their previous comments about transactions not being necessarySo, now that they've been admitting that transactions are vital - won't they look stupid loosing them? At that point, why put *any* database on mysql? Postgresql/Firebird/SQLite are all *freer* anyway. And it isn't like MySQL is going to suddenly come up with a replacement to Innodb - that's the code they couldn't write themselves before, it's the most complex code in mysql, and they apparently don't have people capable of writing it. [ Reply to This | ParentSAP by RahoulB (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @01:54PMRe:SAP by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @02:11PMRe:SAP by Hrunting (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @03:33PMRe:SAP by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @04:17PMRe:SAP by bani (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @08:43PMRe:SAP by jadavis (Score:2) Monday October 17, @08:53PMRe:SAP DB by Hognoxious (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @05:21PMRe:SAP DB by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @07:43PMRe:SAP DB by Hognoxious (Score:2) Monday October 17, @02:19PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:yep by muuh-gnu (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @03:47PMRe:yep by kpharmer (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @11:20PMRe:a key piece ?? by Just Some Guy (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @12:25PMRe:a key piece ?? by CodeRx (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @12:59PMRe:a key piece ?? by jadavis (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @08:59PMRe:a key piece ?? by Bulmakau (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @02:51PM Well now (Score:1) by HoodCrowd (783572) on Saturday October 15, @11:49AM (#13797475) Postgres, baby. [ Reply to ThisRe:Well now by codegen (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @11:53AMRe:Well now by Directrix1 (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @11:58AMRe:Well now by jadavis (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @02:16PM2 replies beneath your current threshold. SCO is going out of business (Score:2) by Russ Nelson (33911) on Saturday October 15, @11:51AM (#13797485) (http://russnelson.com/) SCO is losing business and not gaining any more business. Why would Marten take the chance of alienating his user base for the sake of a few more bucks from SCO, risking his entire business? It's not like the database field isn't competitive.-russ [ Reply to ThisRe:SCO is going out of business by hol (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @01:21PM Oracle is MySQL's most dreaded rival? (Score:5, Insightful) by IANAAC (692242) on Saturday October 15, @11:52AM (#13797487) I honestly don't know anyone who could actually say that with a straight face. [ Reply to This Larry Ellison (Score:4, Insightful) by EraserMouseMan (847479) on Saturday October 15, @12:14PM (#13797594) Don't like Microsoft? Well wait till Larry Ellison starts playing hardball. This man is ruthless and there aren't many people who disagree with that statement. His goal is to be the richest man in the world. Gates is still just a nerd at heart. MySQL only indirectly competes with Microsoft. But MySQL is directly competing with Oracle. Sooner or later they will probably find themselves in the gun-sites of Larry and it won't be pretty.MySQL knows this and that's why they recently declared that they never intend to go after Oracle's customer base. Because they know if they even so much as think about it Larry will eat them for lunch. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Larry Ellison by HiThere (Score:3) Saturday October 15, @04:04PMBill Gates is too a nerd by bartash (Score:2) Monday October 17, @03:10PMRe:Larry Ellison by HiThere (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @09:02PMRe:Larry Ellison by aCapitalist (Score:2) Sunday October 16, @02:39AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Larry Ellison by NineNine (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @04:11PMRe:Larry Ellison by killjoe (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @05:34PMRe:Larry Ellison by BlueLightning (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @09:00PMRe:Larry Ellison by IANAAC (Score:3) Sunday October 16, @01:36AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. oh well ... (Score:1) by ciderpunk (611927) on Saturday October 15, @11:53AM (#13797494) (http://charlieharvey.org.uk/cgi-bin/ctrl.pl) I s'pose that us "fans of Linux and other open source software" have a get out clause in that we could take MySQL's existing codebase under the GPL and develop it the way we want, free from SCO influence. Of course it'll probably turn out that SCO wrote MySQL at some point and we'll all have to start using postgres [postgresql.org] instead. BTW: I think the "important bit of software" made by Innobase in the article is the InnoDB table storage engine (cf. this slashdot article [slashdot.org]). [ Reply to ThisRe:oh well ... by Tetard (Score:1) Sunday October 16, @09:18AM Dan Lyons at his finest. (Score:3, Funny) by DjReagan (143826) on Saturday October 15, @12:07PM (#13797558) "It was classic Groklaw, ripe with paranoia and nonsensical conspiracy theories, and replete with loads of self-righteous huffing and puffing about morality."Hello Pot? This is Kettle. [ Reply to This Doesn't worry me much (Score:2, Interesting) by g_dunn (921640) on Saturday October 15, @12:08PM (#13797565) If the community decides MySQL is now the work of the devil, it's not like there aren't other solutions out there, among them just using current MySQL versions. The project will just branch off from the last open source release before the switch to Evil Commercialization (TM). The license does support this, doesn't it? I must confess, I'm not exactly sure what license MySQL uses for it's releases.There are also plenty of other SQL options out there. Postgres is one I use for various things, and I've found it to be more powerful and more effecient than MySQL. The only drawback is that alot of apps out of the box don't support it.Of course, that would change if everyone stopped using MySQL.That's one thing I love about open source: The power of choice [ Reply to This Re:Doesn't worry me much (Score:5, Insightful) by mcrbids (148650) on Saturday October 15, @02:51PM (#13798288) If the community decides MySQL is now the work of the devilI could care less about "the community" - but I decided long ago that MySQL wasn't worth it. I've been using/promoting PostgreSQL for years, and have written some rather large projects (EG: 100+ tables, millions of records) with it very, very happily.Advantages of Postgres: 1) Many, many MANY features in common with "enterprise" database products,2) Open License lets you do pretty much anything you like, commercial or free.3) Good documentation4) Very solid - in 6 years of use, I've only had a problem ONCE with postgres on a machine with bad memory.5) Helpful community support.6) Comes pre-installed with most server-based distros. EG: RedHatMySQL's advantages 1) Sounds good as part of "LAMP"2) Uses "easier" administration, EG: "connect DBNAME" instead of the more terse "\c DBNAME". (but requires more typing)3) Licensed under the GPL. (which restricts your use in any commercial product you distribute)4) Fewer features means there's less to learn (???)I switched to PG years ago, and I've never looked back. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Doesn't worry me much by bani (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @08:46PMRe:Doesn't worry me much by LurkerXXX (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @11:32PMRe:Doesn't worry me much by MemoryDragon (Score:2) Sunday October 16, @08:51AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Typical Lyons Nonsense (Score:4, Insightful) by tclark (140640) on Saturday October 15, @12:10PM (#13797577) The article's author is just spouting more of his standard nonsense. Lyons doesn't get free software and he's pissed at those of us who do get it. Clicking on a link to a Lyons article never seems to justify the effort spent on the click. [ Reply to ThisRe:Typical Lyons Nonsense by Trepalium (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @03:38PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Lay down with dogs... (Score:1) by sl4shd0rk (755837) on Saturday October 15, @12:15PM (#13797601) wake up with fleas as the old saying goes. If MySCOql didn't want to get labeled as a sco whore, they shouldn't be sleeping with them. They knew what the deal would mean to them.Incidentally, I've switched my Sun servers to postgres. I don't want *ANYTHING* to do with sco, mysql, or any of the dirty bastards that associate with them. [ Reply to ThisRe:Lay down with dogs... by houseofzeus (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @12:22PMHuh? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @04:10PMRe:Lay down with dogs... by HiThere (Score:2) Saturday October 15, @05:21PM3 replies beneath your current threshold. Infantile twerps (Score:2) by Wolfbone (668810) on Saturday October 15, @12:16PM (#13797604) Jones and others' talk of "hypocrisy" and "treachery" is childish and ignorant. If they think that their facile SCO-hating and witch hunting as the clown Darl McBride inexplicably attempts to bash his company's brains out against the wall of IBM is somehow doing more for FLOSS than Marten Mickos has [economic-majority.com], they are completely deluded. [ Reply to This SCO deal is irrelevant (Score:2) by DrXym (126579) on Saturday October 15, @12:34PM (#13797695) If SCO want to throw some money at MySQL for commercial support, then so what?. It might hasten SCO's demise, and the money can be used for bug fixing instead of lining some lawyer's pockets. [ Reply to This Thanks MySQL! (Score:3, Funny) by matchboy (519044) on Saturday October 15, @12:41PM (#13797720) (http://www.planetargon.com/) Dear MySQL,Ever since you and joined forces [slashdot.org], my PostgreSQL hosting and consulting business has gone up. On top of that, several existing customers have begun asking how they can migrate their applications from MySQL to PostgreSQL. While I am happy to hear that you finally got yourself some stored procedures and other advanced features... it saddens me that you're doing business with a company (SCO) that thinks that one of your business models is unconstitutional. You are tainted now. However, I really just wanted to say thanks for the extra work that have you provided me. It's no secret that being a professional PostgreSQL consultant is going to be a highly valuable skill in the coming few years...there is already a shortage [ittoolbox.com]. Thanks for sending people to the world's most advanced open source database server!Former MySQL fan, [ Reply to ThisRe:Thanks MySQL! by Kemuri (Score:1) Saturday October 15, @05:33PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Agenda?