echucker writes "News.com is carrying a story for a draft proposal for law in Westchester County in New York state that would outlaw unsecured wi-fi connections. Public internet access would require a network gateway server with a firewall and also require home/business office users to install firewalls to protect personal info, even if their connection is encrypted. Violations would carry fines of $250-$500."Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='wireless,doj';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; Unsecured Wi-Fi to Become Illegal? Log in/Create an Account | Top | 383 comments (Spill at 50!) | Index Only | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 383 comments 0: 379 comments 1: 309 comments 2: 207 comments 3: 63 comments 4: 30 comments 5: 19 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. (1) | 2 Great idea! by JanusFury (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:23AM Re:Great idea! (Score:5, Insightful) by h4rm0ny (722443) <h4rm0ny@nosPam.tarddell.net> on Saturday November 05, @12:29PM (#13958162) (Last Journal: Tuesday December 02, @06:03AM) Although depending on the wording of the law, this could be used to hinder anonymous internet access. Example - if you are providing a public internet access then unsecured could be interpreted as allowing access without identity verification.And another bit of privacy is lost. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Great idea! by hector_uk (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:59PMRe:Great idea! by Bryansix (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:36PMRe:Great idea! by nametaken (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:57PMRe:Great idea! by hector_uk (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @02:04PMRe:Great idea! by EllisDees (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:38PMRe:Great idea! by Bryansix (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:38PMRe:Great idea! by Bryansix (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @09:13PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Great idea! by ZeroZen (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @08:37PMRe:Great idea! by macdaddy357 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:30PMExcept... by msauve (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:04PM Wardriving Police Cars (Score:5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05, @10:24AM (#13957507) I can see it now :) [ Reply to ThisRe:Wardriving Police Cars by PacketScan (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:33AMRe:Wardriving Police Cars by innocent_white_lamb (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @04:15PMRe:Wardriving Police Cars by Alex Belits (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:57PM This is absurd (Score:5, Insightful) by TFGeditor (737839) on Saturday November 05, @10:24AM (#13957511) (http://www.fishgame.com/) It is like fining somebody for leaving their door unlocked and they get burglarized.This is the epitome of a YRO violation. Interesting it was posted under the Hardware banner. [ Reply to This Re:This is absurd (Score:5, Insightful) by remahl (698283) on Saturday November 05, @10:28AM (#13957536) No, it's like fining somebody for leaving their door unlocked and _not_ getting burglarized. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:This is absurd (Score:5, Insightful) by roystgnr (4015) <roystgnr@ticam.u[ ]as.edu ['tex' in gap]> on Saturday November 05, @10:52AM (#13957647) (http://slashdot.org/) No, it's like fining somebody for leaving their door unlocked and _not_ getting burglarized.No, it's like fining somebody for not having a fence around their property and not getting burglarized.A locked door isn't like a firewall, it's like a secure password-protected service. Firewalls easily let you limit access to "all or nothing" - but hell, if that's as "fine-grained" as you need your security to be, you can get the same effect on a good OS just by turning off the services you want inaccessible. You can use a firewall to limit access by IP, but you could do that without a separate firewall by having clients do IP (or better, asymmetric encryption key) checks themselves. What you can't do is use a firewall to forward outside connections to an inside service and expect that service to become any more secure.Does this have something to do with the push behind SP2? I can't imagine Microsoft wanting to widely advertise, "You need to upgrade for security reasons because pre-SP2 versions of our programs are swiss cheese!" but they did need to get the "You need to upgrade for security reasons" message out there - perhaps what got across to consumers and lawmakers was "You need to upgrade for security reasons because SP2 has the all-important magic of Firewall!" [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by Profane MuthaFucka (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:21PMRe:This is absurd by tehshen (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @12:46PMRe:This is absurd by Viper168 (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @01:24PMRe:This is absurd by TFGeditor (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @05:38PMRe:This is absurd by Orgazmus (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:01PM Re:This is absurd (Score:5, Funny) by bhtooefr (649901) <(moc.liamg) (ta) (rfeoothb)> on Saturday November 05, @01:29PM (#13958393) (http://my.opera.com/bhtooefr/blog/ | Last Journal: Saturday June 11, @09:07AM) It's like being fined for parking your (locked) car in your driveway, instead of in your garage.There, car analogy. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by SavvyPlayer (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:46PMRe:This is absurd by jftitan (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @04:10PMRe:This is absurd by Alsee (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:27PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by DustMagnet (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @08:13PMRe:This is absurd by pimpin apollo (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @12:36PMRe:This is absurd by torokun (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @07:51PMRe:This is absurd by mcrbids (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:38PMRe:This is absurd by Deadstick (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:15PMRe:This is absurd by dajak (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:21PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by Sensible Clod (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:28AMRe:This is absurd by timeOday (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:01AMRe:This is absurd by bcrowell (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:18AMRe:This is absurd by gmack (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:38AM Which might be a good reason to leave it open (Score:5, Interesting) by SuperKendall (25149) * on Saturday November 05, @12:11PM (#13958068) All those nice things that if done from their own isp connection would get them kicked off by their ISP or have the police visit. Guess who gets the blame? All traces stop with the person who owns the internet connection.So when the P2P police come calling if I'd had an open wireless connection it provides an element of doubt that I am guiltiy, which is pretty handy (if you're into P2P). If I used P2P a lot I'd do it from a box that operated only through my wireless connection - then any records don't even show the MAC address of your primary computer and you could ditch the box quickly if you got The Letter. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Which might be a good reason to leave it open by Halfbaked Plan (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:43PMRe:Which might be a good reason to leave it open by swillden (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:41PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by timeOday (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:06PMRe:This is absurd by aminorex (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:07PMRe:This is absurd by bcrowell (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:32PMRe:This is absurd by gmack (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:43PMRe:This is absurd by bcrowell (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @07:52PMRe:This is absurd by sigloiv (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:44PMRe:This is absurd by Time_Ngler (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:35PMRe:This is absurd by bcrowell (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @03:42PMRe:This is absurd by Thing 1 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:52PM Re:This is absurd (Score:4, Insightful) by ultranova (717540) on Saturday November 05, @03:27PM (#13958956) Now I go to Amazon.com and order a book over https; the packets are encrypted, nobody can get my credit card number, so what's the issue? The issue is that your Corporate Overlords and their Political Henchmen want to keep an eye on you, and that is easier if all the data from and to your computer goes through a single wire. In a world full of public anonymous Wi-Fi access points, anyone could connect to anything from anywhere without giving away their own identity, allowing free exchange of information without fear of legal consequences, and making things impossible to censor (since it might be impossible to find the servers the data resides in, especially if the servers are running a P2P network like Freenet [freenetproject.org]); it is Big Brothers and Big Businesses worst nightmare.Freedom is the worst enemy of Power, so of course powers-that-be try to crush it. This law is just another attempt of forces of darkness to crush all opposition and bring about a Digital Dark Age. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:This is absurd (Score:4, Interesting) by WalterSobchak (193686) * on Saturday November 05, @11:18AM (#13957783) (http://vonbelow.com/ | Last Journal: Friday October 31, @08:19AM) This is entirely absurd. While there are people who don't know better, some chose to have their WiFi open.And "some people" include such ignorant folks as Intel Corp., who operate a free-for-all access point on San Francisco's Union Square. Would the law outlaw this kind of marketing, too?Oh, and a hint: Put your phone no. or eMail in your SSID and I will personally thank you when I use your AP.Alex [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by MikeFM (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @09:34PMRe:This is absurd by mrcolj (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:59AMNow that's an idea. by Rekolitus (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:42PMRe:This is absurd by BVis (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:53PMRe:This is absurd by EllisDees (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:45PMRe:This is absurd by BVis (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:37PMRe:This is absurd by nolife (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:20PMRe:This is absurd by BVis (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:29PMRe:This is absurd by 47F0 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:16PMRe:This is absurd by BVis (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:54AMallowing an unlocked house & meth lab by G4from128k (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:41AM Re:allowing an unlocked house & meth lab (Score:4, Interesting) by Angostura (703910) on Saturday November 05, @10:46AM (#13957616) So let's be clear. You are in favour of strict penalties for anyone who leaves their house with a door unlocked on the grounds that the premises may be used for illegal behaviour?In that case, I would like to propose compulsory content analysis and blocking on all backbone routers. Because you never know when someone somewhere might use the Internet for something distasteful.I suspect that the proposed legislation has zero chance of getting anywhere. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:allowing an unlocked house & meth lab by rkcallaghan (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:08AMflawed analogies and unclear stances by G4from128k (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:28AMRe:flawed analogies and unclear stances by 47F0 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @08:43PMRe:allowing an unlocked house & meth lab by pnewhook (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:07AMUnlocked == asking the WAP and getting "OK" by G4from128k (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:38AMRe:Unlocked == asking the WAP and getting "OK" by pnewhook (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:51AMRe:Unlocked == asking the WAP and getting "OK" by Cerv (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:23PMRe:allowing an unlocked house & meth lab by cd_smith (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:48PMRe:allowing an unlocked house & meth lab by ceoyoyo (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:52PMRe:This is absurd by RAMMS+EIN (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:46AMRe:This is absurd by Proud like a god (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:59AMRe:This is absurd by giorgiofr (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:07AMRe:This is absurd by RAMMS+EIN (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:18AMRe:This is absurd by QuesarVII (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:11AM Re:This is absurd (Score:5, Interesting) by Gulthek (12570) on Saturday November 05, @10:47AM (#13957625) (http://www.stephenball.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday April 25, @09:03PM) You might not think that when you discover that your mortgage office, which stores an obscene amount of personal info, has all of that personal information on desktop computers on an unsecured wireless network.Yes, I have worked as a mortgage loan officer for such a place. Yes, I insisted on that being changed (to extremely computer clueless management). Yes, I eventually quit for these and other questionable practices. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by stubaggs (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:44AMRe:This is absurd by dthrall (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:46AM Re:This is absurd (Score:5, Insightful) by Pendersempai (625351) on Saturday November 05, @12:22PM (#13958127) This is why we need strict liability for having your customers' personal information stolen. This is not an argument for arresting/fining people with an unprotected WiFi. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by jelton (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:34PMRe:This is absurd by MikeFM (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @09:48PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by mre5565 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @05:58PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by shish (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:51AMRe:This is absurd by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:16AMRe:This is absurd [OT] by kasparov (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:05PMRe:This is absurd [OT] by Viper168 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:56PMRe:This is absurd [OT] by signifying nothing (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:25PMRe:This is absurd by TFGeditor (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:46PMRe:This is absurd by jacobolus (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:07PMRe:This is absurd by ThaFooz (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:02AMRe:This is absurd by Create an Account (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:11AMRe:This is absurd by GuyverDH (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @12:33PMre: negligence in software? by King_TJ (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:57PMRe:This is absurd by ThaFooz (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:07PMRe:This is absurd by GuyverDH (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:49PMRe:This is absurd by egburr (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @08:35PMRe:This is absurd by blueskies (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:43PMRe:This is absurd by Threni (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:09PMRe:This is absurd by skasingularity (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:14PMRe:This is absurd by aminorex (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:52PMRe:This is absurd by mstahl (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:19PMRe:This is absurd by ThaFooz (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:27PMRe:This is absurd by mstahl (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:37PMRe:This is absurd by ThaFooz (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:04PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Comrade, this is not a North Korean only forum... by gd23ka (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:51PMRe:This is absurd by packetbasher (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @04:08PMRe:This is absurd by ultranova (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:12PMRe:This is absurd by ceoyoyo (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:29PMRe:This is absurd by 47F0 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:31PM4 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:This is absurd by Spacejock (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:17AMRe:This is absurd by MyDixieWrecked (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:18AMRe:This is absurd by SilverspurG (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:33PMRe:This is absurd by ophix (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:01PMRe:This is absurd by hermi (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:42PMRe:This is absurd by MyDixieWrecked (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:00PMRe:This is absurd by Lumpy (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:37AM Re:This is absurd (Score:4, Interesting) by Chris Burke (6130) on Saturday November 05, @12:02PM (#13958017) (http://slashdot.org/) Is this really about protecting private information or stopping computer crime?It seems to me this would mostly benefit ISPs who don't want people sharing their broadband connections with everyone on their block. Won't someone think of the lost monthly fees?! Not that this would necessarily prevent connection sharing; but a mere firewall won't do much to prevent information stealing either.I'll admit my main reason for thinking this is cynicism. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:This is absurd by Midnight Thunder (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:16PMRe:This is absurd by Midnight Thunder (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @12:22PMRe:This is absurd by Slashdiddly (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:17PMRe:This is absurd by capilot (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @05:46PMNot so absurd by Paraplex (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:03PMRe:This is absurd by dgatwood (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:57PM3 replies beneath your current threshold.Firewall? Nahh.. by JoostSchuttelaar (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:24AM Is this because of the telco's? (Score:5, Insightful) by koan (80826) on Saturday November 05, @10:25AM (#13957521) (http://www.lostpacket.net/) Is this a response to the Google plans and various other implimentations of free wireless?These legislators have gotten downright dangerous, I also wonder, how uesful is an open network for hacking?If you were up to no good is an open AP the way to do it? [ Reply to ThisRe:Is this because of the telco's? by bigjoeb (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:06AM Re:Is this because of the telco's? (Score:4, Informative) by rkcallaghan (858110) on Saturday November 05, @11:11AM (#13957745) If you were up to no good is an open AP the way to do it? The short answer, YES. The long answer, if its not a honeypot and you can evade physical detection, YES. The former may be harder to detect on the fly, but the latter is as simple as hiding in plain sight in the parking lot of an apartment complex or frat house. ~Rebecca [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Is this because of the telco's? by ThaFooz (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:43AMRe:Is this because of the telco's? by Deliveranc3 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:07PMRe:Is this because of the telco's? by ranton (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:18PMRe:Is this because of the telco's? by AK Marc (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:00PM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Luckily it is just a proposal. (Score:5, Insightful) by Nichotin (794369) on Saturday November 05, @10:26AM (#13957525) This law would be impossible to enforce anyway. You would have to send a task around to track down all unsecured access points, then bust in the doors of a whole lot of white middle class people. [ Reply to ThisRe:Luckily it is just a proposal. by RAMMS+EIN (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:30AM Re:Luckily it is just a proposal. (Score:5, Informative) by l3prador (700532) <hydrateordie@nosPam.earthlink.net> on Saturday November 05, @10:51AM (#13957640) Actually, from the article it seems to only apply to businesses, or home offices, not just any homeowner. Their intention seems to be to prevent theft of credit card information from customers of the business. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Luckily it is just a proposal. by Jeff DeMaagd (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:56AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Luckily it is just a proposal. by canuck57 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:03AMRe:Luckily it is just a proposal. by MikeURL (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:21AM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! (Score:5, Funny) by Tuqui (96668) on Saturday November 05, @10:26AM (#13957526) (http://www.nakasone.jp/) Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! [ Reply to ThisRe:Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! by jurt1235 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:01AMRe:Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! by Zeph (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:47PMRe:Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! by h4rm0ny (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:54PMRe:Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! by SILIZIUMM (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:11PM3 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:Make Unsecured OS Illegal too!!! by rapidweather (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:05PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes (Score:5, Insightful) by Gothmolly (148874) on Saturday November 05, @10:26AM (#13957527) Um, just making something illegal doesn't stop it. Try doing the speed limit, in Westchester county of all places.To me, this sounds like one of those "I'm protecting your children from Teh Internets" moves that politicians do periodically when they have to remind the masses that its time to vote.How about holding someone responsible (gasp) for any malicious activity that originates FROM their network? [ Reply to ThisIllegal, but trackable by nurb432 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:35AMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by darkmeridian (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:39AMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by MikeURL (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:25AMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by RAMMS+EIN (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @11:02AMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by ichigo 2.0 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:32AMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by bigpat (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:12PMRe:Speeding also illegal, as is cheating on taxes by dragonman97 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:45PMIn related news... by M555 (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:27AMRe:In related news... by Nimloth (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:39AMRe:In related news... by iggymanz (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:43AMTypical Canadian forelock-tugging by ccmay (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:46AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:In related news... by value_added (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:11AM Right. That'll work. (Score:5, Funny) by Morky (577776) on Saturday November 05, @10:28AM (#13957535) If being an idiot were illegal, most of my company would be in prison. [ Reply to ThisRe:Right. That'll work. by Kjella (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:46AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.The idea is nice, but politicians are idiots by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:29AM Will they also require we lock our front doors? (Score:5, Interesting) by tinrobot (314936) on Saturday November 05, @10:29AM (#13957541) What ever happened to personal choice?If I want to leave my data connection open for any number of reasons, that's my business. If I want to leave my front door open or not lock my car, that's my business too...Ridiculous. [ Reply to Thisunless you house a swimming pool.... by bnf (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:02AMRe:unless you house a swimming pool.... by PGC (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:43PMRe:unless you house a swimming pool.... by bnf (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:43PMRe:unless you house a swimming pool.... by 47F0 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:49PMRe:Will they also require we lock our front doors? by LTC_Kilgore (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:18AMRe:Will they also require we lock our front doors? by nametaken (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:57PMWhere do you live? by antdude (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:40PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. stupid stupid stupid (Score:5, Insightful) by Matey-O (518004) <michaeljohnmiller@mSPAMsSPAMnSPAM.com> on Saturday November 05, @10:30AM (#13957543) (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday February 19, @10:25AM) We've got a public access wifi point in the building for visiting salsefolks and people from other government departments.Open you laptop and you'll get 'do you want to attach to PublicWifi?'It's firewalled off, URL filtered, and aside from http(s), DHCP, DNS, SSH and VPN, nothing else can get through. Further, those ports will only attach to outside IPs. All traffic is monitored, and there are notices in all meeting rooms that Your security is Your problem.This is a solution that protects OUR network, has zero admin overhead, and still permits the resource...So that's now illegal? [ Reply to ThisRe:stupid stupid stupid by phunster (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:53AMRe:stupid stupid stupid by RAMMS+EIN (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:07AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:stupid stupid stupid by FluffyWithTeeth (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:05AMRe:stupid stupid stupid by tqft (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @06:47PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Well, driving without a... by teewurstmann (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:30AMRe:Well, driving without a... by capoccia (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @10:33AMRe:Well, driving without a... by teewurstmann (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:14PM