Monday, December 05, 2005

vain gloria writes "The Mozilla Corporation has launched a competition to Extend Firefox by developing an innovative new extension for the soon-to-be-released latest version of their popular browser. The competition runs until January 6th and the three big prizes are Foxified Alienware PCs. Keen developers may want to grab a copy of the 1.5 Release Candidate and get a head start. Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter."Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='mozilla,programming';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; MozCorp Announces Firefox 1.5 Extension Competition Log in/Create an Account | Top | 238 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 238 comments 0: 235 comments 1: 175 comments 2: 88 comments 3: 29 comments 4: 13 comments 5: 11 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. if that is necessary... (Score:5, Funny) by TheWart (700842) on Friday November 04, @08:09AM (#13949186) (http://double-think.blogspot.com/) "Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter."On second thought, if that is necessary for you to remember where you live, then maybe you shouldn't be entering the contest. [ Reply to ThisRe:if that is necessary... by The Shrewd Dude (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:17AM Re:if that is necessary... (Score:5, Insightful) by Fred_A (10934) <fred@wwna . n et> on Friday November 04, @08:21AM (#13949240) (http://www.fredshome.org/) This geographic limitation is very weird and runs opposite to the worldwide nature of open source software.Why aren't Africans or Asians or Australians (or whateverians) allowed to enter ? What's wrong with the other north Americans (Mexicans) ?Is this a language issue ? Part of the "fight against terror" (sic) or what ? [ Reply to This | Parent Re:if that is necessary... (Score:5, Insightful) by Shaper_pmp (825142) on Friday November 04, @08:29AM (#13949279) More likely legal requirements, or restrictions on shipping technology (the first prize) to other countries.Remember the furore about banning the sale of PS2s to Iraq because the chips could be used in missile guidance systems? [ Reply to This | ParentThen why is Quebec excluded? by dmoen (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:51AMRe:Then why is Quebec excluded? by Lucractius (Score:2) Friday November 04, @09:02AM Re:Then why is Quebec excluded? (Score:5, Informative) by Whafro (193881) on Friday November 04, @11:35AM (#13950841) (http://www.jackwilkinson.com/) Meeting legal requirements for contests limited just to the United States is often a very difficult chore. I see how much work the attorneys in the advertising/competition group in my firm go to for each such proposed contest, and am glad I'm not in that group.It gets exponentially more difficult when you go into other countries, with completely different rules and regulations.So in contrast, I am impressed that they went to the trouble of making it as international as they feasibly could without bankrupting themselves on legal fees and delaying the contest for another year while it was approved. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Then why is Quebec excluded? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday November 04, @02:20PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. The reason (Score:5, Informative) by bcore (705121) on Friday November 04, @09:26AM (#13949611) It's not political or anything, Quebec just has REALLY strict contest laws that require the contest promoters to jump through a lot of hoops. Most contests here in Canada are usually advertized as being "contest void in Quebec" or whatever to that effect. Here's a bit more info [pr9.net] [ Reply to This | ParentRe:The reason by ThJ (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:17AMRe:The reason by Red Alastor (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:12PMRe:The reason by Dr. Evil (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:32PMRe:The reason by Red Alastor (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:45PMRe:The reason by Dr. Evil (Score:2) Friday November 04, @01:21PMRe:The reason by MynockGuano (Score:2) Friday November 04, @04:38PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.uh, wrong by elfguygmail.com (Score:2) Friday November 04, @01:05PMRe:uh, wrong by perogiex (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:13PMRe:uh, wrong by Recovery1 (Score:2) Friday November 04, @04:37PMRe:if that is necessary... by GoodOmens (Score:2) Friday November 04, @09:21AMRe:if that is necessary... by sconeu (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:19PMRe:if that is necessary... by bogado (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:03PMRe:if that is necessary... by G-funk (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:17PMRe:if that is necessary... by databyss (Score:2) Friday November 04, @09:29AMI'll gladly act as a middleman... by koick (Score:1) Friday November 04, @06:18PMRe:if that is necessary... by canuck57 (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:37AMShame... by Elixon (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:47AMRe:Shame... by databyss (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:26AMRe:Shame... by Elixon (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:31AMRe:Shame... by databyss (Score:1) Friday November 04, @12:44PMRe:if that is necessary... by m50d (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:12AMWhat? by Naerymdan (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:49AMRe:What? by PoprocksCk (Score:2) Friday November 04, @11:06AMRe:What? by Red Alastor (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:32PMRe:What? by Red Alastor (Score:2) Friday November 04, @01:30PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:if that is necessary... by Red Alastor (Score:2) Friday November 04, @12:23PM5 replies beneath your current threshold. what about existing extensions? (Score:2, Interesting) by brenddie (897982) on Friday November 04, @08:12AM (#13949198) are they elegible? [ Reply to ThisRe:what about existing extensions? by drstock (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:15AMRe:what about existing extensions? by anickname (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:30AMRe:what about existing extensions? by frodo from middle ea (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:54AMRe:what about existing extensions? by anickname (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:20PMRe:what about existing extensions? by Nogami_Saeko (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:08AMRe:what about existing extensions? by PhoenixPath (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:23AMRe:what about existing extensions? by mrjackson2000 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:35AMRe:what about existing extensions? by Nogami_Saeko (Score:2) Friday November 04, @07:43PM Japan (Score:5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04, @08:16AM (#13949215) Stupid of them to leave out Japan and other parts of Asia ... there's lots of good geeks who could build good extensions there. [ Reply to ThisRe:Japan by zecg (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:25AMRe:Japan by Tim C (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:41AMRe:Japan by tbigby (Score:1) Friday November 04, @06:42PMRe:Japan by AnonymousBystander (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:19AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Experienced vs Novices (Score:5, Interesting) by clear_thought_05 (915350) on Friday November 04, @08:18AM (#13949229) I wonder how the little guys (ex: SVG Switcher for FF1.5 [latenightpc.com]) will compete with the big guys (ex: Web Dev Toolbar [mozilla.org]).I just hope that the small guys are judged fairly and those with years of experience don't just take over the whole competition. Or maybe that's okay, because in the end (perhaps) it will be the big serious guys against eachother and all the newcomers pretty much don't have a chance.Just my opinion, I wonder what others might think. [ Reply to ThisRe:Experienced vs Novices by JimBowen (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:23AMRe:Experienced vs Novices by booch (Score:3) Friday November 04, @01:55PMRe:Experienced vs Novices by clear_thought_05 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @02:25PMRe:Experienced vs Novices by booch (Score:2) Friday November 04, @02:33PMRe:Experienced vs Novices by miyako (Score:2) Friday November 04, @11:30PMRe:Experienced vs Novices by bill_mcgonigle (Score:2) Friday November 04, @05:23PMRe:Experienced vs Novices by clear_thought_05 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:37AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestants?? (Score:2, Insightful) by Livino (928438) on Friday November 04, @08:19AM (#13949234) (http://www.mundomovel.net/) I though Mozilla and the whole free and open source movement was about, well, openness in the first place... Now they're shutting out 85% of the world! (and possibly a similar proportion of the world's developers if Brazil, India, China, South Africa etc. are taken into account. I'm assuming Russia is being included in Europe) [ Reply to ThisRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by slavemowgli (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:22AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by ObsessiveMathsFreak (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:33AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by CastrTroy (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:55AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Eccles (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:50AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by CastrTroy (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:57AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Eccles (Score:2) Friday November 04, @11:14AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Paul Rose (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:36AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by RollingThunder (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:43AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Predathar (Score:3) Friday November 04, @09:25AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by cow ninja (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:44AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Livino (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:48AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by RandoX (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:49AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by kmartshopper (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:18AMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Alcilbiades (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:53PMRe:Why only U.S., Canadian and European contestant by Livino (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:53AM extentions are great..... (Score:5, Insightful) by Celt (125318) on Friday November 04, @08:22AM (#13949247) (http://www.boards.ie/ | Last Journal: Saturday October 09, @04:21PM) Without the 30-40 extentions that I make use of on a daily basis I would have properly have moved to Opera by now, but the extentions make firefox great so I continue to use it :)As well as the excellent extentions like adblock, tabbed browser prefs and sessionsaver its also the little extentions like GMail Delete Button, Wellrounded and MediaPlayerConnectivity that make Firefox a great browser.Good idea that their running a competition as I'm sure it'll ensure their are even more great extentions in the future, I just hope developers update then as time goes on. [ Reply to ThisRe:extentions are great..... by Mostly a lurker (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:29AMRe:extensions are great... but... by evilad (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:38AMRe:extensions are great... but... by insignificant1 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:22AMRe:extensions are great... but... by brontus3927 (Score:2) Friday November 04, @04:27PMRe:extensions are great... but... by insignificant1 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @06:34PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:extentions are great..... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday November 04, @02:07PMTMP Rules! by Monimonika (Score:1) Friday November 04, @03:51PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Want to win? (Score:5, Interesting) by mr_tommy (619972) * <tom@neowin.net> on Friday November 04, @08:26AM (#13949262) (Last Journal: Tuesday January 25, @11:15AM) Why not buld a bit torrent client into Firefox? See this bug on Bugzilla [mozilla.org] for a start point; I'm pretty sure you'd have a good chance if you put this together! [ Reply to ThisRe:Want to win? by highspl (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:58AMRe:Want to win? by adamjudson (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:09AMRe:Want to win? by idonthack (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:04AMRe:Want to win? by nicklott (Score:2) Friday November 04, @09:01AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Want to win? by ghee22 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:02AMRe:Want to win? by bmalia (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:39AM3 replies beneath your current threshold. Dumb Move. (Score:3, Insightful) by donnacha (161610) <slashdot,org&donnacha,com> on Friday November 04, @08:27AM (#13949271) Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter. And they wonder why take-up has been lower outside the US? [slashdot.org]Dumb, dumb, dumb. Especially when it comes to extensions - my rough recollection is that most of the best extensions seem to be by Europeans.They're probably going to claim that they had no choice because it's tricky/expensive to ship electronics outside the States but, c'mon, how hard would it have been to arrange an alternative prize, at least to avoid rubbing the world's nose in it at a time when America isn't exactly the most popular kid in the class. If Mozcorp has a PR, he/she should probably reconsider his/her position. [ Reply to ThisRe:Dumb Move. by tgd (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:34AMRe:Dumb Move. by Westley (Score:2) Friday November 04, @08:36AMRe:Dumb Move. by eric_brissette (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:39AMRe:Dumb Move. by macpulse (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:19AMRe:Dumb Move. by LnxAddct (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:30AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. End of shelf-life for Flock? (Score:1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04, @08:32AM (#13949302) After RTFA, I immediately thought that this is some attempt to knock Flock out of the browser landcape before it even gets any traction. I like Flock but I never understood how some could secure the funding for making a customized Firefox. [ Reply to ThisRe:End of shelf-life for Flock? by Maian (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:04AM not in quebec (Score:1) by azatht (740027) on Friday November 04, @08:35AM (#13949314) (http://aza-toth.blogspot.com/) it states:Where? Contest is open to residents of the US, Canada (excluding Quebec), and the European Union. Void where prohibited. [ Reply to This1 reply beneath your current threshold. javascript verification, please (Score:2, Informative) by Isomorph (760856) on Friday November 04, @08:41AM (#13949347) Someone make a Javasript verificater.I have been programing some javascript programs, but theydon't work when I move to Opera or MSIE.A plugin that could check if the code is standart complientwhould be great.Or if the plugin know what code can't run on MSIE. [ Reply to ThisRe:javascript verification, please by Maian (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:54AMRe:javascript verification, please by VJ42 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:23PMRe:javascript verification, please by Lucas.Langa (Score:1) Friday November 04, @04:43PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? (Score:5, Informative) by Agelmar (205181) * on Friday November 04, @08:41AM (#13949348) I've read TFA, and I can't see anywhere where the rules prohibit entries from Japan etc. The only thing in the rules I can see that mentions geography is "These official rules will be void where any provision thereof would be found invalid by a court of competent jurisdiction. If you are a resident of such a jurisdiction, you may not participate in the Contest." and later, "...he/she is a resident of a jurisdiction where these official rules may be enforced in their entirety and without modification."Nowhere does it specifically limit the contest to USA,CAN,EU that I can find - I'm wondering where the OP got this? Can anyone shed further light on the subject? [ Reply to ThisRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Otter (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:46AMRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by grenthal (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:47AMRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Agelmar (Score:3) Friday November 04, @08:53AMRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Monimonika (Score:1) Friday November 04, @04:05PMRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by Raphael (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:58AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by bahwi (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:57AMRe:Where does TFA mention geographic restrictions? by edxwelch (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:27AM dont leave us out! (Score:3, Funny) by shrewd (830067) on Friday November 04, @08:46AM (#13949367) theres alot of talent in antarctica, why should they be excluded? [ Reply to ThisRe:dont leave us out! by ballsanya (Score:1) Friday November 04, @12:18PMRe:dont leave us out! by Eccles (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:55AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Rules & eligibility (Score:2) by dago (25724) on Friday November 04, @08:51AM (#13949392) Strange, the published rules [mozilla.org] don't make any mention of the location of the participatns (or I read them too fast). [ Reply to ThisRe:Rules & eligibility by databyss (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:51AMRe:Rules & eligibility by AndreiK (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:36PM Better pop-up extentions? (Score:4, Informative) by NXprime (573188) on Friday November 04, @08:55AM (#13949418) Better pop-up extentions?1. A popup blocker that works %100 of the time. Even with Firefox 1.5 Beta2 build, I still get a popup by clicking this link http://www.activewin.com/awin/default.asp [activewin.com] and then clicking anywhere on the page at all. Appearently they have a javascript that knows when you're 'touching' a webpage? I have to highlight text to read better so I don't know why this is going on. I do have my settings set at opening pages or user clicked popups in the same window as the current tab. Don't know if that's causing it or not. Is there a nicer Windows news website than Activewin? I'm really starting to hate that pop-up infested site.2. Flash pop-up detector. Go here. http://www.cleveland.com/ [cleveland.com] a flash ad flys across the page. I like using Flashblock that blocks all flash (yeah, right) until I allow it to. Happens sometimes on yahoo.com news pages too.I guess I'm asking for a noscript type extension, but is dormant until I ask it to block scripts for a webpage since it's only these websites driving me nuts right now. A blacklist if you will. I spent more time messing with NoScript extension then going to my daily 45 websites. Plus I like installing a new clean install of firefox and updated extensions meaning I don't have time redoing this crap all the time. Disabling SOME scripts for websites would be cool too.Spellcheck as you type for Firefox would be a killer extension too. :) [ Reply to ThisRe:Better pop-up extentions? by ghee22 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:11AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by dvanatta (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:35AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by PhoenixPath (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:14AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by j3tt (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:36AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by Viper Daimao (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:44AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by john83 (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:18AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by jesterzog (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:45AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by Crayon Kid (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:57AMRe:Better pop-up extentions? by triffidsting (Score:1) Friday November 04, @06:02PM2 replies beneath your current threshold. Adblock (Score:1) by growse (928427) on Friday November 04, @09:01AM (#13949453) (http://www.growse.com/) I want an extension that lets me run linux within windows.Seriously, better extensions are always good, it's partly what makes firefox the great thing it is. [ Reply to This This will only make thing better! (Score:1) by TheZorch (925979) on Friday November 04, @09:11AM (#13949506) An Extensions competition for Firefox will only make things better for us. Firefox/Mozilla just reached the 10% marketshare mark recently. Woot!FF is superior to IE in every way. I have nothing but problems with it everytime I use it, and the only time it does seem to work without a hitch is when I visit Windows Update. What's up with that!?Compared to FF my copy of IE is slow and lumbering. I have several installed Extensions and it doesn't slow me down at all. I use FastFox one of the best Extensions ever and it really does work, I use FlashGet which I just love, and it would be cool if an Extension could be made to integrate Azureus (open-source BitTorrent Client) into FF. I'd also like to see a WinAmp Compatibility Extension as well as one that adds a true FTP client to FF with the ability to pause and resume downloads and even queue up downloads so you can do them one at a time instead of all at once if you're on dialup. A very useful Extension would also be one that allows parents to restrict access to certain websites by requiring a passcode to browse to them. It would have a list of known site that aren't safe that it can download and parents can add their own. Now that would really boost FF usership ten-fold. I'd like to see IE try to beat that. [ Reply to This1 reply beneath your current threshold. A plugin idea (Score:2, Interesting) by baxissimo (135512) on Friday November 04, @09:25AM (#13949602) I'd like to see a plugin that lets me override annoying javascript that prevents resizing windows. It's my window damnit, I should be able to resize it if I want to. Or a plugin which lets me add the standard menu bar to a window that doesn't have it if I want the window to have a freaking menu bar.Ok, probably not bedazzling enough to win the competition, but it would still be a great plugin to have. [ Reply to ThisRe:A plugin idea by vagabond_gr (Score:1) Friday November 04, @09:37AMRe:A plugin idea by vagabond_gr (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:01AMRe:A plugin idea by baxissimo (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:24PM Or in Quebec? (Score:2) by Pedrito (94783) on Friday November 04, @09:30AM (#13949632) (http://www.petedavis.net/) US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) The poster must be Quebecois. Because if you ask anyone else, Quebec is actually PART of Canada, not a separate country. [ Reply to ThisRe:Or in Quebec? by arock99 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:13AMRe:Or in Quebec? by smcavoy (Score:1) Friday November 04, @12:13PMRe:Or in Quebec? by tendays (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:27AMRe:Or in Quebec? by KylePflug (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:22AMRe:Or in Quebec? by FluffyWithTeeth (Score:1) Friday November 04, @01:28PMRe:Or in Quebec? by adslmaster (Score:1) Friday November 04, @08:05PM Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? (Score:3, Insightful) by dyoung9090 (894137) on Friday November 04, @09:48AM (#13949787) I love Firefox and everything, but when I upgraded to one of the 1.5 betas (because everyone told me about all the new things that were going to be in it, which were admittedly small stuff like being able to reorganize my tabs) half of my extensions went bye-bye. Some came back when they were fixed, but others... not so much. A little while after the second beta came out I decided to get that too, thinking that I was over the extensions I could no longer use and that enough time had passed so that the ones I used (and surely every other person using Firefox) must have been updated as well. Not the case. Needless to say, I went with reckless abandon into RC1 and will probably go to the official version as soon as it's out, just to get there. My hope is that the developers of most of the extensions I used were waiting for a more stable build and so in the future I should just wait until those come out instead of jumping into the newest upgrade for a few random features. Now, there's going to be a dozen people telling me "Quit complaining, start programming" but I hope this comes off more as "constructive criticism" than anything else because of the web-browser user base (all 87% percent of the US or whatever number it is), a good 75 have never, can never and will never program (unless it becomes simplified to the point of telling your computer in plain language what you want it to do and it cobbles together something... "I want something to remember my recipes and generates a shopping list and gets approximate prices from the internet" and 30 seconds later a fully functional database comes out.) Although the percentage of coders to non-coders may be higher with Firefox, the high priests of Firefox are desperate for a piece of that mainstream market. If I show Firefox and all that I can make it do to a friend who wants it installed, I don't want to tell that friend "now, never, EVER install an update because you'll lose half of the functions you've become accustomed too, at least for a little while but possibly forever" because they'll say screw it and stick with IE. I loved Aardvark (it was so handy in cleaning up Mapquest stuff, news articles...) but it's become increasingly broke and in RC1 it's apparently fully dead until I hunt for the website (it didn't play well with the updater) to see if it's got an update. Stop-or-reload... same thing. Grease Monkey? Gone. Try searching for a torrent using the new Firefox. Now, these middle-adapters, the ones you have to prove the value of software to, aren't known for being upgrade happy (think your mom, still running IE 5 how many years after 6.0?) or else they may have tried Firefox earlier, but when they do upgrade, they don't want to switch to a different, competing extension becuase there's is broken, nor do they want to lose functionality they've become used to. The extensions are awesome, best part of the browser but I think down the road the breakability of extensions is going to throttle the number of new-users. Think of old Netscape where slowly it became a nerd-only alternative, depsite their protests that it was more secure/more capable/better browser but IE kept winning people over because it (a) kept adapting to enable new features (I can't think of any, but that's because I haven't used Netscape since 2000), and (b) retained most of it's features. IMO, people would rather use something that lacks features but has all the ones they're attached to than use something that introduces them to new features, and then takes them away. Not every extension is going to be the next big thing... that extension so useful that the browser gods themselves reach down to integrate it into their next version, but if there's a user base at all for it, they're not going to like being told they can't use it with the newest toys because the developer didn't think there was enough of a user base to continue his support. Yeah, it's his or her decision to not update, but the user isn't going to care... they're going to blame FirefoRead the rest of this comment... [ Reply to ThisRTFRN! by geobeck (Score:2) Friday November 04, @10:02AMRe:RTFRN! by dyoung9090 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @02:59PMRe:RTFRN! by geobeck (Score:1) Friday November 04, @03:48PMRTF MESSAGE by dyoung9090 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @11:33PMRe:Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? by arekq (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:53AMRe:Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? by dyoung9090 (Score:1) Friday November 04, @02:37PMRe:Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? by arekq (Score:1) Friday November 04, @10:56PMRe:Maybe they should fix broken extensions first? by dyoung9090 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:16AM New/Updated (Score:2) by roman_mir (125474) on Friday November 04, @10:01AM (#13949891) (http://russkey.mozdev.org/ | Last Journal: Monday December 08, @11:44AM)

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