rbochan writes "Some of you may recall a couple of years back when Microsoft and Unisys decided that a multi-million dollar ad campaign against *nix was in order, dubbed 'We Have A Way Out.' The results weren't what they'd hoped. ZDNet is now reporting that Unisys has done an about face and is now touting Linux as 'a mature technology and the right cost-effective option for many companies.'"Ads_xl=0;Ads_yl=0;Ads_xp='';Ads_yp='';Ads_xp1='';Ads_yp1='';Ads_par='';Ads_cnturl='';Ads_prf='page=article';Ads_channels='RON_P6_IMU';Ads_wrd='unix,linux';Ads_kid=0;Ads_bid=0;Ads_sec=0; Unisys: We No Longer Have A Way Out Log in/Create an Account | Top | 177 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 177 comments 0: 173 comments 1: 131 comments 2: 91 comments 3: 27 comments 4: 16 comments 5: 7 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Is the market really moving? (Score:2, Insightful) by electrosoccertux (874415) on Saturday November 05, @12:12PM (#13958074) Is it just me and all the articles I'm reading on slashdot, or is the market truly getting ready for a serious Microsoft ousting? All the things are lining up...google, new Firefoxes, OpenOffice...The world follows the tech people, and the tech people say its time to ditch Microsoft. I see something happening. [ Reply to ThisRe:Is the market really moving? by Olix (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:22PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Hosiah (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:32PM Games! (Score:5, Interesting) by tsa (15680) on Saturday November 05, @01:05PM (#13958309) (http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.w.tjerkstra) Need I say more? [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Games! by tsa (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:32PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Is the market really moving? by Liam Slider (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:39PMRe:Is the market really moving? by jalet (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:47PMKDE ready for mainstream by CarpetShark (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:09PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Olix (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:48PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:Is the market really moving? (Score:5, Insightful) by lukewarmfusion (726141) on Saturday November 05, @12:28PM (#13958156) (http://www.slashdot.org/~lukewarmfusion/journal/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 02, @02:49PM) You said it, but I don't think you understood it -The tech people say it's time to ditch Microsoft.The business people don't necessarily get it. I talked to a guy yesterday who owns a group of companies such as an ISP, a computer repair shop, computer retail sales shop, web design firm, and business tech consulting company. He was showing me a home-grown web application that was quite impressive... until I asked him if it worked on Firefox. He laughed, looked at me and said, "No. Why would I support a browser with less than 1% of the market share?" I corrected him - 11% according to recent articles and as high as 40% on many of my clients' websites. His response was something along the lines of "when it gets to 40% across the board, I'll consider supporting it."The point is, he's a business owner in our industry. He's a smart tech guy, but he's fully adopted Microsoft and defends its use. He can make a strong case for them to his clients, which are many. Business people don't see the world the same way that the tech folks do. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Is the market really moving? by ScottyH (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:46PMlol. that's why he'll never be really big by Colin Smith (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:48PMRe:Is the market really moving? by The Lerneaen Hydra (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:03PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Monkelectric (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:31PMRe:Is the market really moving? by radarsat1 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:43PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Monkelectric (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:22PMRe:Is the market really moving? by radarsat1 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:56PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Is the market really moving? by yurnotsoeviltwin (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:38PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Kingrames (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:03PMRe:Is the market really moving? by chris_mahan (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @04:09PMRe:Is the market really moving? by stewby18 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:04PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Generic Guy (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:34PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Hiro Antagonist (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:10PMRe:Is the market really moving? by lukewarmfusion (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:45PMRe:Is the market really moving? by nurb432 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:46PM Re:Is the market really moving? (Score:4, Insightful) by asdfghjklqwertyuiop (649296) on Saturday November 05, @03:57PM (#13959146) until I asked him if it worked on Firefox. He laughed, looked at me and said, "No. Why would I support a browser with less than 1% of the market share?" I corrected him - 11% according to recent articles and as high as 40% on many of my clients' websites. His response was something along the lines of "when it gets to 40% across the board, I'll consider supporting it."He doesn't have to "support" firefox, or IE or any one browser. He just has to write standard, correct HTML and do a little more testing in different browsers.Really, what costs more, loosing even 1% of his online sales, or doing the above? [ Reply to This | ParentJust type "lose", FFS by Urusai (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @10:06PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Is the market really moving? by metricmusic (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @11:01PMRe:Is the market really moving? by schon (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @11:03PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.World events by matt me (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @12:32PMRe:Is the market really moving? by dioscaido (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:57PMRe:Is the market really moving? by Fordiman (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:30PMThink percentage... by hackwrench (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:21PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Is the market really moving? Intel Too?? by Nom du Keyboard (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:12PMRe:Is the market really moving? Intel Too?? by Orgazmus (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @07:53PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Mature is right by Olix (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @12:31PMRe:Mature is right by Fordiman (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:28PMRe:Is the market really moving? by SavvyPlayer (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:17PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Mature is right by MightyMartian (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:18PM4 replies beneath your current threshold. It didn't? (Score:4, Insightful) by LaughingCoder (914424) on Saturday November 05, @12:16PM (#13958096) From the article:The same ad depicts a scene in which a computer user has painted himself into a corner with purple paint. Sun's servers are manufactured in a shade of purple similar to that in the ad. Sun responded to the campaign in a statement. "Sun still does not see Microsoft as a real threat in the datacenter market where reliability, availability, serviceability and security are key," the company said. "As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows." Well, if the target was Sun as the article suggested, it seems to me things worked out just dandy from Microsoft's perspective. I would venture to say that Microsoft's market penetration in datacenters has grown quite a bit since 2002, while I'm equally certain Sun's has faded. [ Reply to ThisRe:It didn't? by Frankie70 (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:47PM Re:It didn't? (Score:4, Informative) by illumina+us (615188) on Saturday November 05, @01:52PM (#13958500) (http://illuminatus.oczombies.net/) Well... it kind of is [opensolaris.org] [ Reply to This | ParentRe:It didn't? by Decaff (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @04:37PMRe:It didn't? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @05:29PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:It didn't? (Score:5, Interesting) by photon317 (208409) on Saturday November 05, @01:27PM (#13958382) Sun has lost datacenter shares to Linux, not to Microsoft. Windows just isn't even in remotely the same ballpark as *nix for the kinds of things most people deploy *nix for in datacenters. I've never really heard of any significant cases of people migrating significant services from *nix to windows in the datacenter, other than "business" windows desktop services like company email, company file sharing volumes, etc. At most companies that matter, internal business services are just a small thing running in the corner somewhere compared to whatever domain-specific thing it is they really do with most of their hardware.Even on the business desktop services side, I suspect we're (finally) seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. As more US states, foreign governments, and eventually the US feds adopt document standards like OpenDocument that OOo uses and start embracing the idea that government software must be open-source, the effect will filter down to private business. First to those that contract with the government directly, and then to businesses that in turn contract with them, etc. The net effect of that change will be that the typical corporate desktop will be running OpenOffice, Firefox, Evolution/Thunderbird/Sunbird/etc (or similar in nature/compatibility) software, and the data being interchanged will be flowing in open formats on open protocols (even if, at least initially, the desktop OS itself is still Windows).At that point the momentum builds strongly for converting the backend business services off of Windows servers and onto Linux, and off of Windows and onto something better (maybe a future better Linux corporate desktop, or OS/X for x86, or god knows what). [ Reply to This | ParentRe:It didn't? by LaughingCoder (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @10:19PMRe:It didn't? by harp2812 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:12PMRe:It didn't? by Ex-MislTech (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:45PMRe:It didn't? by asdfgl (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @06:00PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. I remember when ... (Score:4, Funny) by krygny (473134) on Saturday November 05, @12:19PM (#13958111) ... the site first went up. IIRC, it was hosted on Apache on Solaris (or some such *NIX). A day or so later, it was pulled and replaced with IIS on Windows [NT|2000]. After that, I never payed it no nevermind. [ Reply to ThisRe:I remember when ... by Akaihiryuu (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:24PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Bloody twits. (Score:5, Insightful) by Hiro Antagonist (310179) on Saturday November 05, @12:21PM (#13958121) (Last Journal: Thursday October 10, @10:56AM) This is why running a smear campaigain is a bad idea. Every now and then, it works, but it more often than not comes back to bite you in the ass. You're much better off to say nothing, or to say something that just casts yourself in a positive light.Think about it -- you're interviewing two guys for an important job. One talks about all the good things he's done at his last job. The other talks about how screwed up things were and how he 'fixed' them. Who are you going to hire?OT: People do this, too; there was an individual (name and gender withheld) at a previous place of employment with a resume filled with things like "Took a mis-managed department and brought it to productivity." Not only was this one of the worst employees we ever hired, but said employee got canned after six months because they did *nothing* but complain about how other departments were stopping them from doing their job.The replacement had a more positive mindset, and caught up on the backlog within two months. Needless to say, he got promoted a couple of times. [ Reply to ThisRe:Bloody twits. by jellomizer (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:40PMRe:Bloody twits. by Evro (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:44PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Unisys needs more PR (Score:3, Funny) by klingens (147173) on Saturday November 05, @12:21PM (#13958123) One issue is that the company does not have great visibility outside its core markets. "Customers say, 'We wish you were better known,' and we have to address that," he said. That's an easy request: just patent more popular graphics fileformats with submarine patents and then start enforcing them a few years down the line. Instant Press! [ Reply to ThisWord. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:04PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Unisys needs more PR by MilenCent (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:17PM Campaign slogan (Score:4, Funny) by Slashdiddly (917720) on Saturday November 05, @12:27PM (#13958150) Well, it's possible they meant it as in "suicide is a way out". It's true! [ Reply to ThisRe:Campaign slogan by mdaniel (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @07:18PM Unisys' strategy for growth (Score:5, Funny) by rsax (603351) on Saturday November 05, @12:28PM (#13958158) (Last Journal: Sunday January 30, @04:11PM) He said the enterprise services company is now focused on four core areas: Enterprise security, real-time infrastructures, open source and the Microsoft market.Way to narrow it down. [ Reply to ThisRe:Unisys' strategy for growth by arivanov (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:00PM Just a Thought (Score:5, Insightful) by Edunikki (677354) on Saturday November 05, @12:30PM (#13958163) As much as many are devoted to Linux here, isn't this a case of Microsoft has not had a real OS refresh in years while, during that period, Linux has been constantly improving?As much as it appears Unisys was in it for the money, it could just be they have reached some kind of tipping point where they believe that Linux now is a viable alternative to MS where they didn't previously. You know, opinions changing when the facts do . . . [ Reply to ThisRe:Just a Thought by botsmaster25 (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:47PMRe:Just a Thought by Taladar (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:56PMRe:Just a Thought by mav[LAG] (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @04:58PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Just a Thought by mikefe (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:14PMNo, not quite. by twitter (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @08:38PMRe:Just a Thought by Penguinoflight (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @09:47PMRe:Just a Thought by HiThere (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:11AM uni..who ?? (Score:1) by teaDrunk (849107) on Saturday November 05, @12:32PM (#13958173) Unisys who ? [ Reply to ThisRe:uni..who ?? by WilliamSChips (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:38PMRe:uni..who ?? by Eunuchswear (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:07PMRe:uni..who ?? by WilliamSChips (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @05:38PMIBM's LZW patent by tepples (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @06:51PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. insider viewpoint (Score:5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05, @12:40PM (#13958214) A disclaimer: I am a Unisys employee.Unisys is definitely making a move towards widespread adoption of Linux (Red Hat and SuSE) as a development platform, and various other open source development tools (eg, Maven, Eclipse, various parts of Apache Commons, etc). Regardless of current marketing hype from Blackmore and McGrath (the CEO), this is very much a bottom-up driven initiative. Open source software is finding itself in an increasing number of Unisys solutions, to the occasional consternation of management. So what you're hearing from the Unisys management publicly now is "hooray, Open Source," but what you would have heard a few years ago was... well, nothing, unless you worked for Unisys, in which case you probably would heard "stay the hell away."Note: when I say "finding my way into," I don't mean "being stolen." Unisys is being extremely careful as to what the various license requirements are for the things it's using, so developers and architects are cognizant of the implications of the GPL and other similar "sharealike" licenses where their efforts are concerned. My experience with the developers here has been that they are pretty agnostic about everything except efficacy - they just want the stuff to work, and they want to get it done right for as little money as they can spend. I find that to be a healthy attitude.For a guy like me whose roots are pretty heavily in open software, there's more than a little irony here. You may recall Unisys' spat with the Free Software Foundation [gnu.org], or... well, really a whole bunch of people, including Accuweather [com.com], over software patent issues.One last thing: Peter Blackmore has identified outsourcing as a major component of the Unisys strategy. He's not kidding. Tons of Unisys developers have been axed over the last few years, and much of the development activity has been given to Caritor [caritor.com] employees, based either locally at Unisys offices, or in India. The ones I've worked with are good guys, but there's more than a little discomfort between the two groups. Many Unisys folks see his biggest impact on the company as having been the guy who sent Unisys jobs to India. [ Reply to ThisRe:insider viewpoint by Danathar (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:48PMRe:insider viewpoint - Say this with great care !! by Nom du Keyboard (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @01:29PMRe:insider viewpoint - Say this with great care !! by superpulpsicle (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @09:03PMRe:insider viewpoint by The GooMan (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:33PMRe:insider viewpoint by bananasfalklands (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:37PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:insider viewpoint by Frumious Wombat (Score:3) Saturday November 05, @01:38PMRe:insider viewpoint by mikefe (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @05:24PMRe:insider viewpoint by HiThere (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:24AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Unisys = hoars (Score:4, Informative) by Danathar (267989) on Saturday November 05, @12:42PM (#13958221) You may label this as a rant.....I worked on Unisys Sperry Mainframe equipment for almost 7 years. I can tell you categorically that Unisys tried every possible way to kill products it's customer wanted. When IBM was bleeding money Unisys had the better Mainframe OS (OS2200). Since then IBM has done more to innovate the mainfame market (moved to CMOS, embrased UNIX/LINUX, enabled OS390 for the Internet world). Meanwhile Unisys tried to get in bed with Microsoft and changed their product line so that anything that was not MS centric was basically a "legacy" platform where they just wanted the old Sperry/Burroughs customer base to dump their investment in older technologies and move to WinNT/Win2k servers.The history of Unisys is that they put their finger in the wind see which way it's going and join the crowd YEARS after the initial party is over.The only GOOD thing I can say about Unisys is that my contract (I was a Lead computer operator/batch scheduler) ended as a result of them promising equipment to the customer at cut rates that they then dragged their feet delivering...and as a result I quit and found a better job, doing LINUX!....thank you UNISYS! [ Reply to ThisRe:Unisys = hoars by The Shrewd Dude (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @01:06PMRe:Unisys = hoars by Danathar (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @01:11PMRe:Unisys = hoars by rubycodez (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @02:06PMRe:Unisys = hoars by innocent_white_lamb (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @03:15PMUnisys has had CMOS mainframes for a decade. by Richard Steiner (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:19AMRe:Unisys = hoars by Danathar (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @12:53PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Microsoft in the DataCenter? Not reliable! (Score:1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05, @12:48PM (#13958246) You can get certified Unix that is carrier telecom grade certified reliable (99.999%). Same for Linux and Linux embedded. No version of Microsoft operating system has been carrier telecom grade certified. Even though Microsoft in their old 1998 print advertising claim that their NT operating system was 99.999%. So far, Microsoft has never tried to get its current operating system certified for carrier telecom grade use, because it will fail. [ Reply to This Both would have their own place ......... (Score:1) by meshweta (928769) on Saturday November 05, @12:50PM (#13958256) I think both microsoft and the *nix family of OS will have their own place in the market. We all will have to agree to the fact that Linux is meant for "intelligent" users, as for Windows, it would still rule the market as OS for the masses.The relative business expansion would highly depend on the business strategies of what good they propogate for themselves rather than how bad the other is. Both the tech as well as the business community knows the power of both in todays market.I just like the expirience an Open Source OS like Linux has to offer, which makes a simple task of writing a min functional driver an njoyable task..... [ Reply to ThisRe:Both would have their own place ......... by Ash-Fox (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:00PM This is even more humiliating for Microsoft (Score:4, Informative) by johansalk (818687) on Saturday November 05, @12:59PM (#13958286) http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;75408 4996;fp;16;fpid;0 [computerworld.com.au]It's unofficial: Microsoft bets business on LinuxRodney Gedda04/11/2005 08:31:35The next time Bill Gates sends an e-mail through Microsoft's shiny new Wireless LAN it will be passed through a behind-the-scenes Linux-based network appliance.Earlier this year Microsoft and Aruba Networks jointly announced the two companies will work to replace Microsoft's existing Cisco wireless network with Aruba's centrally-managed infrastructure, which eliminates the need for individual changes on the access points.Aruba Networks was selected to provide the networking equipment for what is considered to be one of the world's largest next-generation wireless LANs, serving more than 25,000 simultaneous users a day in some 60 countries. According to an Aruba press statement, Microsoft's new WLAN will be deployed in 277 buildings covering more than 17 million square feet using Aruba mobility controllers, mobility software and some 5000 wireless access points.What the press statement didn't mention is that Aruba mobility controllers run the Linux operating system which Microsoft has aggressively targeted as being inferior to Windows as part of its "Get the Facts" marketing campaign.Mark Robards, Aruba Network's Asia-Pacific vice president, said the company's mobility controller switches provide integrated security, including a firewall, VPN, and hardware encryption, and they are "all Linux-based".Robards said the network rollout with Microsoft is going well and is likely to take two years to complete and will contain as many as 7000 access points. Indeed, Aruba is recruiting Linux developers to work on its mobility controller software. In an advertisement on the company's Web site, Aruba is seeking a senior Linux software engineer with "expert knowledge of Linux and extensive Linux kernel experience".Sunjeev Pandey, senior director of Microsoft IT, said the company is "pleased to be partnering with Aruba in the upgrade of Microsoft's next-generation wireless LAN"."This partnership will allow Microsoft to leverage a cutting-edge wireless and mobility platform that provides us the scalability, performance and security that our environment demands," Pandey said.Pandey's appraisal of Aruba's technology is in stark contrast to Microsoft's "Get the Facts" rhetoric which places Windows as a more secure, and higher-performing choice over Linux. [ Reply to ThisRe:This is even more humiliating for Microsoft by mcjulio (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @03:08PM One Case Study (Score:4, Informative) by Nom du Keyboard (633989) on Saturday November 05, @01:08PM (#13958316) My wife has been looking these last few weeks for a fileserver for her small business -- three empolyees performing accounting and tax preparation. She considered possibly wanting an application server as well as fileserver. The Dell "solution" was close to $3000, with nearly half of that the cost for Microsoft Server 2003. Ouch!Have gotten her to finally consider that maybe all she needs is a good chunk of network storage. I've shown her how she can put 400GB of mirrored storage onto the network with long warranties on the disc drives using a NetGear SC101 for $600. She's considering it right now.While Unisys may aim towards the higher-end markets than this, a Linux solution with good multiprocessor support and zero cost can make a significant difference in this ever increasingly competative environment -- especially if you're flogging Intel iron against AMD Opterons.Besides, some things really do run better on Linux. IIRC Oracle 9i is a prime example. [ Reply to ThisRe:One Case Study by seifried (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:15PMRe:One Case Study by Nom du Keyboard (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @08:34PMRe:One Case Study by Packet Pusher (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @09:50PM Punishment for the GIF patent? (Score:3, Interesting) by argoff (142580) on Saturday November 05, @01:16PM (#13958344) IMHO, the same forces that caused them to be such jerks about the GIF patent are the same one that caused them to miss the boat with Linux. What many businesses don't understand is that there is far more money out their to be made with IT related services than IT related licensing. To be successfull in the information age, you need to treat the free wheeling free copying nature of the internet like a benefit, not a competitive threat.Unfortunately there are still all to many businesses who think that the way that they're supposed to make money is by selling information they create like a boxed product and choking off how it's used. Since their business model is incompatable with the Linux business model, there will likely be far more attcks on Linux, and especially freedom in software and information distribution, down the pike.IMHO, copyrights can not survive the information age. [ Reply to ThisRe:Punishment for the GIF patent? by goanooky (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @02:09PMRe:Punishment for the GIF patent? by argoff (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @06:20PM"Some rights reserved" by tepples (Score:1) Saturday November 05, @06:59PMRe:Punishment for the GIF patent? by Zontar The Mindless (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @09:20PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Good Thing (Score:1) by PacketScan (797299) on Saturday November 05, @01:19PM (#13958354) Good thing i read slashdot. I never saw that add campain. then again it it was online i likely ignored the add. [ Reply to This1 reply beneath your current threshold. The Way Is Shut (Score:2, Insightful) by drj826 (5854) on Saturday November 05, @01:41PM (#13958447) The way is shut. It was made by those who are free, and the free keep it. The way is shut. [ Reply to This stages (Score:2) by idlake (850372) on Saturday November 05, @01:49PM (#13958482) I see that Unisys is now at the "we are going to be using Linux and open source in a big way" stage of failing companies. Just remember that Unisys was in trouble before they adopted Linux; you can't blame Linux for their almost inevitable failure. [ Reply to This Talk about Deja Vu (Score:2) by craXORjack (726120) on Saturday November 05, @02:04PM (#13958549) Why did this remind me so much of Silicon Graphics? [ Reply to This I found it funny (Score:4, Funny) by krray (605395) * on Saturday November 05, @02:18PM (#13958606) I remember when they first came out with "WeHaveTheWayOut.com" campaign.I dutifully registered (expired last year) "TheyDoNotHaveTheWayOut.com"and merrily pointed it to go to FuckMicrosoft.com [fuckmicrosoft.com]Now you know how I feel. :) [ Reply to ThisRe:I found it funny by Richard_J_N (Score:2) Saturday November 05, @07:51PM Ad targets "Unix", not Linux/BSD (Score:3, Interesting) by crucini (98210) on Saturday November 05, @03:41PM (#13959052)