freaktheclown writes "The battle for the control of the internet could hit a climax next month, with the EU saying that it could 'fall apart.' From the article: 'The European commission is warning that if a deal cannot be reached at a meeting in Tunisia next month the internet will split apart. At issue is the role of the US government in overseeing the internet's address structure, called the domain name system (DNS), which enables communication between the world's computers. It is managed by the California-based, not-for-profit Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann) under contract to the US department of commerce.'" EU Claims Internet Could Fall Apart Next Month Log in/Create an Account | Top | 1096 comments (Spill at 50!) | Index Only | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 1096 comments 0: 1086 comments 1: 850 comments 2: 548 comments 3: 116 comments 4: 66 comments 5: 51 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. (1) | 2 | 3 Icann's motto... (Score:5, Funny) by It doesn't come easy (695416) * <acc...slashdot@@@canine-crew...com> on Thursday October 13, @03:32PM (#13784105) (Last Journal: Monday October 10, @01:15PM) Icann, and you can't. [ Reply to ThisRe:Icann's motto... by Directrix1 (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:01PMRe:Icann's motto... by aicrules (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:44PMImminent death of the Net predicted by winkydink (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:49PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by aicrules (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:54PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by fyngyrz (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:08PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by Taladar (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @05:16PM Re:Imminent death of the Net predicted (Score:5, Funny) by toph42 (160730) on Thursday October 13, @05:26PM (#13785476) (http://www.lp.org/) I don't understand this comment. Do you mean that there are places where people don't have credit cards? How do you pay for the gasoline for your SUVs? [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by RoadDoggFL (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:46PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by operagost (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:03PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:05PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by Poltras (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:03PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by Poltras (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @09:59PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by cyeager61 (Score:1) Friday October 14, @12:44AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Imminent death of the Net predicted by notsoanonymouscoward (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:06PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:10PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by RoadDoggFL (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:15PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by tonsofpcs (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @06:26PMRe:Imminent death of the Net predicted by ElBorba (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @07:00PMOther spam assumptions by Gorimek (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:46PMRe:cc`s by stfukthx (Score:1) Friday October 14, @12:42AM3 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:Icann's motto... by toddbu (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @07:14PMRe:Icann's motto... by rtb61 (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @10:57PMRe:Icann's motto... by pallmall1 (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:22PMRe:Icann's motto... by VagaStorm (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:14PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Icann's motto... by terrymr (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:01PMRe:Icann's motto... by Shakrai (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:29PMRe:Icann's motto... by xTantrum (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:15PMRe:Icann's motto... by teslafreak (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:40PMRe:Icann's motto... by msim (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:47PMRe:Icann's motto... by IgnoramusMaximus (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @09:41PMRe:Icann's motto... by InvalidError (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @11:54PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.2 replies beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:Icann's motto... (Score:5, Insightful) by terrymr (316118) <terrymrNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday October 13, @06:45PM (#13786230) (http://www.freeminimacs.com/?r=15389765) It may be fun to think of the UN as some crazy foreign power ... but the USA is one of the original founding members of the UN (Britain, China, France, Russia & the USA). [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Icann's motto... by burden123 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @11:38PMRe:Icann's motto... by syncomm (Score:1) Friday October 14, @12:10AM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:Icann's motto... by painkillr (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:21PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Icann's motto... by merdark (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:05PMRe:Icann's motto... by dbrutus (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:51PMRe:Icann's motto... by Seumas (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:39PMRe:Icann's motto... by IWannaBeAnAC (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @06:04PMRe:Icann's motto... by SonicBurst (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:36PMRe:Icann's motto... by IWannaBeAnAC (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:47PMRe:Icann's motto... by erikvcl (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:05PMRe:Icann's motto... by SonicBurst (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:21PMRe:Icann's motto... by cp.tar (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:56PMRe:Icann's motto... by SonicBurst (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:16PMRe:Icann's motto... by dbrutus (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @10:02PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Icann's motto... by terrymr (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:23PMRe:Icann's motto... by ppanon (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:14PMRe:Icann's motto... by dbrutus (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @10:21PM EU should be careful (Score:5, Funny) by sgant (178166) <ksgantNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday October 13, @04:10PM (#13784608) (http://skewedreview.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 21, @01:50PM) Al Gore gave us the Internet...and he can just as easily take it away.Don't taunt the Gore. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:EU should be careful by thedcm (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:42PMRe:EU should be careful by Darkman, Walkin Dude (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:11PMRe:EU should be careful by Randle_Revar (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:01PMRe:EU should be careful by Boronx (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @10:03PMRe:EU should be careful by issachar (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:28PM3 replies beneath your current threshold. Never Say Never Again (Score:5, Funny) by HTH NE1 (675604) on Thursday October 13, @04:12PM (#13784625) Eternal Battle for the Domination of the Internet begins.Random target selection: the .com domain.Value: one billion, eight hundred seventy million dollars.Play. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Never Say Never Again by smartdreamer (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:54PMRe:Never Say Never Again by Viper Daimao (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:57PMRe:Never Say Never Again by PGC (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:43PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Go ahead, break it! (Score:5, Funny) by Zooka (457908) on Thursday October 13, @04:15PM (#13784663) Meh, I don't care if they break the internet. I already have several copies of it on CD kindly provided by AOL. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Go ahead, break it! by thedcm (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:42PMRe:Go ahead, break it! by TRS80NT (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:46PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:Go ahead, break it! by mr.mighty (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @11:37PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Technology will always trump policy by tekten (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:46PMA month from now... by IQpierce (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:44PMLet's have a deal by nickdot (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:03PMRe:Let's have a deal by Anonymous Coward (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @07:57PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Time to get vi/nano/notepad out! by alan.briolat (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @11:00PMRe:Icann's motto... by Anonymous Coward (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @04:31PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Internet Climax Next Month by geomon (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:32PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by rovingeyes (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @03:35PM Re:Internet Climax Next Month (Score:4, Funny) by geomon (78680) on Thursday October 13, @03:37PM (#13784168) (http://www.cato.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday April 17, @02:12AM) Here is a preview:Damn pirates! [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Internet Climax Next Month by Satorian (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:18PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:42PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by JohnQPublic (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:56PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by geomon (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:59PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by Mistshadow2k4 (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:20PMRe:Internet Climax Next Month by Mistshadow2k4 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:45PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. Isn't it obvious... (Score:5, Insightful) by olympus_coder (471587) * on Thursday October 13, @03:32PM (#13784108) (http://andrew.fritztech.com/) Let them all start their own DNS systems, breaking the Internet into segments. Let their own stupidity be their punishment. First, they will legislate that ISPs operating in their countries will no be allowed to use root DNS servers other than their own...Then, their citizens will realize that this effectively isolates them from anyone smart enough to stick with the current, very functional, system. Then, the break away group will begin bickering back and forth as some members want to use their control of DNS to influence both local and international political views. It will further splinter into smaller useless segments.At some point the citizenry in some of the smarter countries that broke away will realize how stupid this is when they can't use credit cards controlled by US banks, or interact with US companies easily. They will usher the bureaucrats out to the gallows and the hole problem will be solved.====This whole thing is about controlling the flow of information. The currect (US led) system has 0 political control of domains. The US government doesn't tell ICANN to remove a root DNS entry if they have a problem. The find the server and seize it according to the law. If it is overseas, they work with the local government.We bitch about the government restricting freedom of speech here in the US in general, but Europeans and especially China and the middle east are the the people with no real freedom in that respect (they can't even legally complain about not having freedom of speech in may cases). Allowing governments like that any control over the Internet on the international scale would be a disaster for free speech and a victory for dictators and autocrats that want complete control. [ Reply to This The hole solution (Score:5, Funny) by SuperKendall (25149) * on Thursday October 13, @03:38PM (#13784172) They will usher the bureaucrats out to the gallows and the hole problem will be solved.I assume by this you mean filling said holes with bureaucrats after they are finished with Project Gallows.Happily, this may also reduce required funds for road maintenience so it's really a win-win. :-) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:The hole solution by uncqual (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:45PM Re:Isn't it obvious... (Score:5, Interesting) by Ignignot (782335) * on Thursday October 13, @03:41PM (#13784196) (Last Journal: Thursday October 07, @02:33PM) While I don't agree with your "let them go try it and get burned" approach, I agree that it is a bad idea to have a country without a strong right to free speech to have control over root DNS servers. The United States has a stronger free speech than most of Europe (in that we allow racism and nazi speech) and certainly stronger than countries like Iran and China. Honestly I think that the right way to do it is to make the ICANN answerable to no one (not sure how you do that), or maybe Sweeden because I like those guys. The whole internet is based on voluntary agreement as everyone on slashdot already knows. If the ICANN is just some corporation on its own, and not responsible to the US government, why couldn't we just all agree to use its DNS servers, like we already do? [ Reply to This | ParentWhat of pornography? by FatSean (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:46PMRe:What of pornography? by PaxTech (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:52PM Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Insightful) by jandrese (485) * <kensama@vt.edu> on Thursday October 13, @04:01PM (#13784491) (http://www.ceyah.org/~jandrese/ | Last Journal: Wednesday October 01, @02:47PM) It's intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that the reason behind this EU and UN grab for internet power is in order to suppress speech they disagree with. If not that, then why bother?You don't think it's possible that these guys are just jealous that they don't control it and want it just because they don't have it?Besides, most people are reasonably happy with ICANN. I wish they were going after Verisign and the root certs instead, those are the real bastards. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Insightful) by Em Adespoton (792954) <slashdotonly.1.adespoton@spamgourmet.com> on Thursday October 13, @04:37PM (#13784955) (http://emulation.victoly.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 21, @11:58AM) Seems to me it's more an issue of the rest of the world not trusting the US to act honourably in perpetuity. As a lot of the international economy now depends on the internet in one way or another, other countries don't want the US to be in full control of deciding who goes where/knows what on the internet. Imagine, if you will, that Iran controlled the root servers. Would people in the US trust them? Now recall that there are laws on the books in the US which allow various Federal agencies to access/modify data on the ICANN servers and forbid them from notifying anyone about it. See why the EU is worried?However, this is all academic. It's easy enough to set up your own root servers and just peer into the ICANN ones, append all .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz, .etc entries found there with .us, and go from there. Anyone outside the US then just uses slashdot.org.us instead of slashdot.org, and life goes on as normal. Just like with telephone country codes. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What of pornography? by Ignignot (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @05:01PMRe:What of pornography? by bigpat (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:02PMRe:What of pornography? by name773 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:41PMRe:What of pornography? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:05PM No I wouldn't (Score:5, Insightful) by Sycraft-fu (314770) on Thursday October 13, @06:34PM (#13786123) However, what I would advocate is that the US should setup our own system. We would build our own root service. It would be a redundant version of what Iran ran. Then, if Iran wents nuts and did something against US intrests, we could simply not accept that change to our system or, if need be, completely break away.Personally I think it would be ideal to have multiple root authorities. Have one per country, or maybe one per region. They can then administer regional domains, and they can all vote on new generics (like .com). However, for that to happen, other nations need to make their own credible root systems. The answer isn't that the US should give up control ove rthe one they've made, but that other nations (or multi-nation groups) should make their own. Have the EU setup a root authority that mirrors ICANN and have K (the only European run root) start listening to that. Then setup some more European roots. Talk to the BIND people to get it to localize so when in Europe it prefers the EU roots, and when in the US is prefers the US roots (maybe by IP space checks).Then, once this credible mirror system is running, talk to the US about peering. Say "Look, we think that our roots are as capable as yours, and we'd like to have control of the domains that relate to that such as our contries' domains. You keep your stuff and we mirror that, however we'll take the European stuff and you mirror it." My bet? The US would be totally fine with that. Then we have two peer root authorities. Hopefully more people would then start doing the same thing.That would also allow each nation or area to have a root that conforms to their values. They can block domains if they don't like them. Of course people can always go use the roots from other countries, unless they do some Great Firewall of China thing, but it would solve the majority of the bitching.But that's not what these nations want. They want UN control over DNS, and more than DNS, so they can force other nations to implement their restrictions for them. They don't like a free and open Internet. [ Reply to This | ParentThat doesn't work. by Ungrounded Lightning (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:20PMRe:What of pornography? by Em Adespoton (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:51PMRe:What of pornography? by Rolo Tomasi (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:25PMRe:No I wouldn't by Em Adespoton (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:40PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Well, I'm glad that's settled. (Score:5, Informative) by Grendel Drago (41496) on Thursday October 13, @04:01PM (#13784496) (http://grendel.dyndns.org/) I'm glad that porn is completely legal here. I mean, it's not like Max Hardcore just got raided, or that Red Rose Stories [red-rose-stories.com] got seized and shutdown by the feds, despite being a not-for-profit textfile archive.Oh, shit. Wait. Never mind. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Well, I'm glad that's settled. by Ignignot (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @04:43PMRe:Well, I'm glad that's settled. by Lord_Dweomer (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:20PMRe:Well, I'm glad that's settled. by dBLiSS (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:23PMWar-Porn Webmaster Arrested by MacDork (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:36PMRe:Well, I'm glad that's settled. by patternjuggler (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @10:35PMRaided? With a search warrant? by Thu25245 (Score:2) Friday October 14, @12:39AMAh but we must plan for the future. by FatSean (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:02PMRe:Ah but we must plan for the future. by sgant (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:25PMRe:Ah but we must plan for the future. by sgant (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:43PMRe:Ah but we must plan for the future. by uncqual (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:13PMOh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by Grendel Drago (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:24PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by ncc74656 (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:35PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by jtcm (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:12PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by mykdavies (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:16PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by Sancho (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:02PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by sgant (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:08PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by ray-auch (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:18PMRe:Ah but we must plan for the future. by IgnoramusMaximus (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:42PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by IgnoramusMaximus (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @08:07PMRe:Oh, it wasn't just consenting adults. by kaladorn (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @08:35PMRe:Ah but we must plan for the future. by uncqual (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @11:22PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Ah but we must plan for the future. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:36PM Re:What of pornography? (Score:4, Insightful) by Mac Degger (576336) on Thursday October 13, @04:18PM (#13784701) (Last Journal: Wednesday March 05, @06:56PM) You really ahven't been following your government recently, have you? Have a look at the new FBI stance on porn; it's considered a higher priority than finding terrorists. I kid you not, go google; you'll find some enlightening statement from the new head honcho's.Also, while you're at it, google for 'free speech zones', as pertaining to protesters in the US.No matter what the supremes have done in the past (and there is none, with the new appointee(s)), you're losing it in the US. Just ask the guy who was against the Iraq war in a red state; just because it's not written into the law but enforced by your neighbours (who'll beat you up for wearing anti-bush t-shirts), it's still censorship."It's intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that the reason behind this EU and UN grab for internet power is in order to suppress speech they disagree with."No, it's not obvious. What is obvious is that it's a power grab. 'Why' is open to speculation, but I'd say 'because they don't want a bullying, uni-lateraly acting, militaristic, way-too-opertunistic and aggressive nation headed by an illiterate imbecile to make decisions and exert undue influence on a system which by now is quite important to nation's economies' is much more likely than your, quite mistaken, belief that Europe is living in censorship.Which is kind of odd, when you live in a nation which fines people up to half a million for saying 'fuck' on radio, and a nation cries out in uproar when a breast is kinda-sorta-not-really shown on tv during of all things a football match.However, if by cencorship, you mean 'looking at intelligent design and deciding we don't want 'magic' taught in science classes'...well, then you're right. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Interesting) by AndersOSU (873247) on Thursday October 13, @04:23PM (#13784781) The FBI considers the obsenity task force to be a high priority.In my opinion this is a mistake, but please look up the difference between porn and obsenity. You can start here here [wikipedia.org]Obsenity by definition is neither porn nor protected speech. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What of pornography? by Chandon Seldon (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:47PMRe:What of pornography? by grub (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:55PMRe:What of pornography? by mOdQuArK! (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:01PMRe:What of pornography? by Maclir (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:07PMRe:What of pornography? by Total_Wimp (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:23PM Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Interesting) by mjbkinx (800231) on Thursday October 13, @06:00PM (#13785840) In my opinion this is a mistake, but please look up the difference between porn and obsenity. You can start here [wikipedia.org] That's exactly the point. As obscenity is defined in the US, it depends on the local community where it is provided, how this works on the Internet isn't entirely clear. But I would say that on average, the threshold in Europe is a bit higher than in the US, especially since the TheoCons have gained more influence.There is one example listed in the Wikipedia article, another one is of the guy who runs nowthatsfuckedup.com. He has just been arrested [theregister.co.uk] for obscenity. Interestingly, his site also shows images provided by soldiers in Iraq in exchange for free access, some of which put a somewhat unfavourable light on war.The current US administration has a history of acting unilaterally, and that of course raises some doubts if it is sensible to let them be in control of what the world has become dependent on. I realise the US has a high standard for free-speech, but it isn't unlimited, either. There's also the issue with the US' weird obsession with patents and strange understanding of copyright, which could have unpredictable consequences.So, instead of leaving one country in control, it would be good to give control to one international body that guarantees the Internet can not be affected by individual countries' decisions. That body doesn't have to be the UN, but could be something completely new. Maybe it would even be an opportunity to get a "no-censorship rule" into its charta, since the US is still in the position to make demands that have to be met in order for them to let go of control without making much fuzz about it. That would also act as a safeguard against future changes of the US' stand on this. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What of pornography? by sploxx (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @08:55PMRe:What of pornography? by Ignignot (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:50PMRe:What of pornography? by iocat (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:23PMRe:What of pornography? by MilenCent (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:35PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:42PMTry threatening the president then. by OwP_Fabricated (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:54PMRe:What of pornography? by Total_Wimp (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @06:09PMRe:What of pornography? by SillyNickName4me (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:20PMRe:What of pornography? by renehollan (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:25PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @07:54PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @08:03PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:09PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:What of pornography? by ZachPruckowski (Score:3) Thursday October 13, @04:48PMRe:What of pornography? by rainmayun (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:00PMObviously spoken by ... by Ungrounded Lightning (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:36PMRe:Obviously spoken by ... by davidphogan74 (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @10:06PMRe:What of pornography? by QuantumInterference (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @10:18PMRe:What of pornography? by poopdeville (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:55PMRe:What of pornography? by amliebsch (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:07PMRe:What of pornography? by poopdeville (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:45PM4 replies beneath your current threshold.My opinion, as "a casual observer". by skubeedooo (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:24PMRe:What of pornography? by halalalikwan (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:57PMRe:What of pornography? by dspacemonkey (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:17PMRe:What of pornography? by PaxTech (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:37PMRe:What of pornography? by dspacemonkey (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:10PMRe:What of pornography? by VENONA (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @09:25PMRe:What of pornography? by SLi (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:45PMRe:What of pornography? by McGiraf (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @06:18PMRe:What of pornography? by RexRhino (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @03:59PMRe:What of pornography? by deaddrunk (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:15PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:02PMRe:What of pornography? by FatSean (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:09PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:17PMRe:What of pornography? by MrBigInThePants (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:26PMLocal Obscenity Standards enforced by the FBI? by FatSean (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:31PMRe:What of pornography? by amliebsch (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:47PMRe:What of pornography? by poopdeville (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:01PMRe:What of pornography? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:05PMRe:Local Obscenity Standards enforced by the FBI? by AndersOSU (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:09PMRe:What of pornography? by rob_squared (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @05:34PMRe:What of pornography? by MrBigInThePants (Score:2) Friday October 14, @12:16AM3 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:What of pornography? by Martin Blank (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:32PMJust call them 'terrorists' and voila! by FatSean (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @08:56PMRe:What of pornography? by magarity (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:06PMPretty weak strawman by FatSean (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:13PM Re:Pretty weak strawman (Score:4, Insightful) by Ignignot (782335) * on Thursday October 13, @04:17PM (#13784695) (Last Journal: Thursday October 07, @02:33PM) China is in the UN, which is the body demanding control of the DNS. Each part of it has their own reasons. China and Iran want it so they can stop their own citizens from reading some things. The EU wants it mainly because they want the US to not have it. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Pretty weak strawman by ultranova (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:51PMRe:Pretty weak strawman by lordholm (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:55PMRe:Pretty weak strawman by giorgiofr (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @05:34PMRe:Pretty weak strawman by aaza (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @09:19PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Pretty weak strawman by magarity (Score:2) Thursday October 13, @04:58PMRe:Pretty weak strawman by BobTheAtheist (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @07:24PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Insightful) by shutdown -p now (807394) on Thursday October 13, @05:03PM (#13785264) This only proves that the USA has a better record on the subject compared to China - which hardly anyone disputes. His point, however, was that the USA is certainly not the "most free" country in that respect either. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:What of pornography? (Score:5, Insightful) by Morinaga (857587) on Thursday October 13, @04:16PM (#13784680) Excellent point, but unfortunately not one that really supports your conclusion. Case in point... Brazil, responding to ICANN's approval of .xxx domains: "For those that are still wondering what Triple-X means, let's be specific, Mr. Chairman. They are talking about pornography. These are things that go very deep in our values in many of our countries. In my country, Brazil, we are very worried about this kind of decision-making process where they simply decide upon creating such new top-level generic domain names." This is an officially prepared statement from Brazil's UN rep during a summit about Internet control. This isn't an off the cuff remark by a public official looking for some political points on a TV show somewhere. With that said, take a look at some of these justifcations for wresting control of the internet from ICANN. The key words are "values", "my country" and an over all naive approach to pornography in that a domain name would encourage porn rather than provide a mechanism to limit it to audiences that want it. Right now, you can find anything on the Internet. Anything from forums on Quilting, twins in latex to political freedom for Taiwan sites. This isn't about fear of the US controlling the Internet for some diabolical purpose, it's about other countries implementing some sort of content control.Also, don't believe for a second that these countries see this as some public service. There's money to be had. UN administration taxes for the win! [ Reply to This | ParentRe:What of pornography? by Xarius (Score:1) Thursday October 13, @04:39PM Re:What of pornography? (Score:4, Informative) by Morinaga (857587)