Tenken writes "1UP has an eye opening article on the many similarities between the XBOX 360 and the Dreamcast. It's actually pretty scary, case in point: both consoles launched a year before their major competitors, and even their logos are incredibly similar. The article also goes on to mention why the 360 will not fail miserably like the Dreamcast. " XBOX 360=Dreamcast 2.0? Log in/Create an Account | Top | 345 comments | Search Discussion Display Options Threshold: -1: 345 comments 0: 337 comments 1: 262 comments 2: 177 comments 3: 52 comments 4: 32 comments 5: 27 comments Flat Nested No Comments Threaded Oldest First Newest First Highest Scores First Oldest First (Ignore Threads) Newest First (Ignore Threads) The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. Different gamer, different opinion (Score:5, Interesting) by dada21 (163177) * <dadacell@@@hotmail...com> on Sunday November 06, @10:47AM (#13962889) I love my Dreamcast. I still play it daily (used the HD output for years to my projectors). Never owned a PSx. I still have (younger) friends who knock on my door all the time to get their Dreamcast fix.I also couldn't give up my Intellivision for a Nintendo for 2 years (Metroid finally did it). Graphics hype wasn't enough. My friends with Nintendo came to my house for all-night Intellivision gaming. Playability was tops. I still have my Intellivision for a few games. Love that controller.I can't see picking up an X360 for gaming. I own 2 X-Box consoles, 90% for my Media Center Extenders, 10% for my broad's vampire games. Since back in the day, my gaming was PC gaming. Castlevania and Conan, Ultima, Utopia, etc.Console gaming for me was never about video hype. I love repeated playability with longevity, and catchy music/sounds. Graphics have always been better on my PC, but I turn them to the lowest settings. We're getting really close to "Life" rather than "Life-like" and when we get there, I'll put graphics near the top once I can truly be reality immersed.There aren't many gamers like me, I think. I'm not a market. I spend a TON on hardware, very little on software. I'd love to find a group/site I can communicate with, consisting of people with similar gaming issues.Chu Chu Rocket, anyone? [ Reply to ThisRe:Different gamer, different opinion by Jonny_eh (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:16AMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by Kent Recal (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:54PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by shinma (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @11:27AM2 replies beneath your current threshold. dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners (Score:5, Insightful) by ArmorFiend (151674) on Sunday November 06, @11:27AM (#13963092) (http://www.bomberlan.net/~dm | Last Journal: Tuesday June 10, @04:17PM) Indeed, the people that accuse Dreamcast of being a "failed" system invariably are those that never had a dreamcast! The system rocked, and had eminently fun & groundbreaking games. If, like me, this is what you want from your console, then the Dreamcast was a smashing success (actually its my favorite console of all time). If, on the other hand what you desire from your console is "the same mediocrity that all your friends have", then the PS2 is your man. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners (Score:5, Insightful) by Jason Earl (1894) on Sunday November 06, @11:33AM (#13963121) Here's how you can tell that Dreamcast failed. Instead of making Sega piles of money, it lost Sega piles of money, and it caused them to get out of the console business forever.Believe it or not, the gaming business isn't about giving you and your friends fun games to play, it's about making money. That's why it's hard to qualify the XBox as a success. The XBox lost more money than any other console in history. Microsoft has lost billions of dollars on the XBox. Heck, it's still losing money on a quarterly basis as Microsoft readies the 360. If the XBox 360 is as big a financial disaster as the XBox then Microsoft investors are almost certainly going to wonder what they are doing throwing their money down a hole. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners (Score:5, Interesting) by ArmorFiend (151674) on Sunday November 06, @11:42AM (#13963167) (http://www.bomberlan.net/~dm | Last Journal: Tuesday June 10, @04:17PM) Sega is a failed console manufacturer. I suppose that would matter if they'd released the system only to have no games for it, like, say, the 32x. But with Dreamcast apperantly they only had money to either (A) Make Great Games or (B) Market it properly. They chose (A), and that's why you don't see DC owners complaining it is a "failed system". [ Reply to This | ParentThey had money to market it by rsilvergun (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:28PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by despisethesun (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @01:31PM Didn't fail because of marketing (Score:5, Interesting) by SuperKendall (25149) * on Sunday November 06, @01:33PM (#13963722) What makes you think the Dreamcast failed because of marketing?I knew about it. I bought consoles. Heck, I bought an Atari Jaguar - AND the CD unit! It wasn't like I made my choices based on popularity.But I just wasn't interested in the Dreamcast, because while it had some good games it did not have (in my mind) a lot. And the other problem was that for a brand new system, it seemed underpowered. To a lot of gamers that was a point in time where the increase in graphics meant more than they do now. To me the Dreamcast languished because of being slightly underpowered and a trickle of games I cared about.In that respect I do think the 360 has some things in common. Not exactly in the graphics where it appears to be about equal, but more in storage with the space-limiting DVD meaning games with wider ranges of graphic content will be released on the PS3. And there just aren't enough interesting games lined up for release yet (the ones that are actually releasing anyway) to make me want to buy the system now, or seemingly even in six months. [ Reply to This | ParentRe: Probably did fail because of marketing by Cryptnotic (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:27PMRe: correction... by Cryptnotic (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:50PMRe:Didn't fail because of marketing by ArmorFiend (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:52PMPerhaps it was a markeitng failure then by SuperKendall (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @10:55PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by dominic7 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:46AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. about this potential X-Box failure... (Score:5, Insightful) by Phil Urich (841393) on Sunday November 06, @12:51PM (#13963512) (Last Journal: Thursday November 03, @08:42PM) Believe it or not, the gaming business isn't about giving you and your friends fun games to play, it's about making money. That's why it's hard to qualify the XBox as a success. The XBox lost more money than any other console in history. Microsoft has lost billions of dollars on the XBox. Heck, it's still losing money on a quarterly basis as Microsoft readies the 360. If the XBox 360 is as big a financial disaster as the XBox then Microsoft investors are almost certainly going to wonder what they are doing throwing their money down a hole.Now, I have to slightly disagree with you there. Firstly, was it actually a "disaster"? Is Microsoft in financial troubles because of it? I couldn't claim to have anything near to exact figures, but I'm nonetheless quite sure that the answer is no, it is not in bad financial shape now because of the X-Box. Just because it didn't make money doesn't make Microsoft instantly broke, and investors know that . . .Now, I'm usually the first to lambast the system for the encouragement of short-term quarterly gains instead of long-term goals, but I think in this case Microsoft (or, since this is slashdot after all, I should say "M$") has been pretty clear with its goals and the investors are on board with it. The fact that Microsoft is making so much money in every other area is exactly why it needs to go into this area even if it means losing a fraction (perhaps a sizable fraction, even) of that profit; there really isn't much room for growth where it is now. Already with a virtual monopoly, what is "M$" left to do? So what if some money is lost in the short term. It's a sacrifice to get a foothold in an industry that is quite difficult to break through into. But the X-Box is a success because it does show a widespread adoption. It was certainly never intended to make money, it was meant to be successful in the "screw the monetary consideration!.....for now" way. And a foothold in the video-game industry gives the Redmondians a stepping stone for access into the vague but promising directions that digital entertainment is always threatening to soar off into.The company has grown, and growth is nearly synonymous with success. The profit part can come later. If Microsoft had less of a seriously impressive disposable income, then it would be another story, but the company has the luxury of such (relatively) grand planning.Naturally, if anyone has facts to back up my arguement (or alternatively, to dismantle it) please do elaborate! [ Reply to This | ParentRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by superpulpsicle (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @02:12PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by fistfullast33l (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:06PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by scot4875 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:24PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by Khuffie (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @02:38PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by HyperHyper (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @08:03PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:01PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by AvitarX (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:16PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:24PMRe:about this potential X-Box failure... by rtb61 (Score:2) Monday November 07, @12:52AMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by Krimszon (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @02:26PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by fistfullast33l (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @03:21PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by skreeech (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @07:09PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by MilenCent (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:21PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by adoarns (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @04:48PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @08:12PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by toiletsalmon (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:26PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by MrWa (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @01:33PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by Krakhan (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @02:24PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by justdweezil (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @02:28PMGo go fanboys. by OwP_Fabricated (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @03:12PMRe:Go go fanboys. by PaganRitual (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @08:09PMRe:Go go fanboys. by OwP_Fabricated (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:14PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by Jozer99 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @05:19PMDon't deny it - everyone knows it's true by NetRAVEN5000 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @07:18PMRe:Don't deny it - everyone knows it's true by jp10558 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:27PMRe:dreamcast was "failed" only for non-owners by im_thatoneguy (Score:1) Monday November 07, @12:20AMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by `Sean (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:35AMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by dada21 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:52AMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by `Sean (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @08:07PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by ilyaaohell (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:44AM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:Different gamer, different opinion by SphericalCrusher (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:13PMAmen by rupert0 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:48PMLiked the Intellivision controller?! by frederec (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @02:25PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by linforcer (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @06:35PMJeez by billybob (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:44PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by dada21 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:24AM Re:Different gamer, different opinion (Score:5, Interesting) by BewireNomali (618969) <lazyrus@@@gmail...com> on Sunday November 06, @12:40PM (#13963463) (http://aricklenin.blogspot.com/) 31 is the average age of the gamer market. You are spot on.I never played the dreamcast, but I'm of the Playstation generation... and I like the X-Box because of the immersive quality of its games.I'm a toking gamer - so there's a huge difference between walking into an empty room and skulking into a brilliantly shaded, lit room with curtains wafting in a breeze that I can hide behind in Splinter Cell. Immersion is important to me. X-Box games feel more complete.By contrast, the PS2 has an awesome variety of games; the library is a compelling reason to own one. Among my friends, I'm the X-Box guy; they all have PS2s, so it works out well.My experience as a gamer revolves around immersion and variety. The X-Box suffers from a lack of variety; the PS2 is not immersive. The PS2 is akin to watching VHS; whereas the X-Box is more of a DVD experience.If the PS3 can promise immersion and variety, then I'm there. It'll be an easy call. I'm already going to get an XBox 360 because PS3 missed the boat by not having an online service. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Different gamer, different opinion by dada21 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:17PMengaging immersive by YesIAmAScript (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @07:06PMRe:engaging immersive by BewireNomali (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @07:50PMthis all makes a lot of sense to me.. by YesIAmAScript (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:20PMJust a different boat by SuperKendall (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:39PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by schon (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @09:44PMRe:Different gamer, different opinion by BewireNomali (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:14PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.4 replies beneath your current threshold. It's ==, not =. :-) (Score:5, Funny) by techmuse (160085) on Sunday November 06, @10:50AM (#13962902) The slashdot editors were probably not assigning the XBOX 360 to have the same value as the Dreamcast, but rather just doing a comparison. But since they have performed the assignment, the XBOX 360 will fail several years ago, in EXACTLY the same way as the Dreamcast. :-) [ Reply to This No, NO. (Score:5, Funny) by game kid (805301) on Sunday November 06, @11:19AM (#13963034) (http://gamekid.notlong.com/slashdot/) They assigned it the value of Dreamcast 2.0. There hasn't been a Dreamcast 2.0 yet, so the XBOX 360 is currently null (Nothing in Visual Basic).Therefore, it actually doesn't exist. Quod erat demonstratum etc.(Now, having seen many pictures of the console before this, my head will surely explode in either case.) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:No, NO. by RubberDogBone (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:15PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:It's ==, not =. :-) by piquadratCH (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:31AMRe:It's ==, not =. :-) by Xipher (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:53AMRe:It's ==, not =. :-) by BashDot (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:17PMdefun by CaptainPinko (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:37PMRe:It's ==, not =. :-) by rupert0 (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @01:19PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Compiler Error by ndnet (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:31PM3 replies beneath your current threshold. The biggest difference is (Score:5, Insightful) by antifoidulus (807088) on Sunday November 06, @10:52AM (#13962910) (http://slashdot.org???? | Last Journal: Friday March 11, @09:17PM) that Microsoft is not coming off an abysmal failure of a console, it's coming from a console that did relatively well. It seems a lot of people were just so tired of Sega constantly releasing overpriced hardware(eg 32x, Genesis CD, Sega Saturn) with a very limited software selection that they just gave up on Sega and wouldn't even give the Dreamcast a try. Of course Sony's overhyped PS2 announcement didn't help either, but I don't think that was the main cause of the demise of the dreamcast. Microsoft(in the realm of video games anyway) is coming off a somewhat surprising hit with the XBox, a relatively long lived console with lots of games to choose from. They could still fail, but I don't think it will be for the same reasons the Dreamcast failed. [ Reply to ThisRe:The biggest difference is by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:00AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Re:The biggest difference is (Score:5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 06, @11:15AM (#13963023) "Microsoft is not coming off an abysmal failure of a console"I guess that depends on how you define abysmal failure.Microsoft lost $4 billion, equivalent to 10% of their profits over the last 4 years, to come into a very distant and very sloppy second in a market with only 3 competitors.Microsoft literally gave the Xbox away. Divide the 4 billion they lost by the average price of the Xbox over the last 4 years and you get almost 20 million consoles - which accounts for almost every console they "sold". [ Reply to This | Parent Re:The biggest difference is (Score:5, Insightful) by Have Blue (616) on Sunday November 06, @11:45AM (#13963183) (http://www.seizurerobots.com/) Considering that they kicked their most experienced competitor out of that "very distant and very sloppy second", I'd say they did pretty well. Also, you're not accounting for games that tanked (of which MGS financed more than a few) and investments in the Xbox Live infrastructure.This is how MS has always worked- the first version sucks and loses a ton of money (the Xbox somehow dodged the former), but they do learn from their mistakes when they're actually forced to compete with someone. [ Reply to This | Parent Re:The biggest difference is (Score:5, Insightful) by Svartalf (2997) on Sunday November 06, @11:52AM (#13963216) (http://svartalf.freeshell.org/) Define kicked...When you start looking at what Nintendo did with the GameCube, you start realizing that it wasn't that Microsoft kicked them out of the second place slot, it's Nintendo failed to execute sufficiently to keep the second place slot.If they'd designed the GameCube a little differently, say with a DVD drive in it instead of their cutesy discs...If they'd not gunned for the kiddie games company role (which has always been a failing of Nintendo...)...If either or both of them happened differently, X-Box would have most likely ended up third. Even then, Microsoft didn'treally kick them, they out bought them. Like the grandparent poster indicated- they basically GAVE the X-Box away, spending more than either of the other two players, just to get that second place. Imagine what would have happened if Sony had seriously opted for that play- Sony's a MUCH bigger company with even deeper pockets. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:The biggest difference is by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:01PMRe:The biggest difference is by Txiasaeia (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @12:19PMRe:The biggest difference is by despisethesun (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @01:35PMRe:The biggest difference is by k_187 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @07:16PMRe:The biggest difference is by CastrTroy (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:05PMRe:The biggest difference is by Txiasaeia (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:21PMRe:The biggest difference is by CastrTroy (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @05:16PMRe:The biggest difference is by RollingThunder (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @10:46PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Interesting that you say that... by Svartalf (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @03:14PMRe:Interesting that you say that... by PGC (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @03:40PMRe:The biggest difference is by JohnnyLocust (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:04PMRe:The biggest difference is by Svartalf (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @03:20PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:The biggest difference is by MikeFM (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:55PM Bogus, bogus, bogus (Score:4, Interesting) by Phantasmo (586700) on Sunday November 06, @04:23PM (#13964763) 1. Nintendo is the most profitable of the big three, despite having the smallest share.2. One of the reasons that the Gamecube is so dang affordable ($90 retail here in Canada) is because they left out the ability to play DVDs. Those licenses cost money.3. The "kiddie" market is extremely lucrative, and Nintendo dominates it. Kids harass their parents constantly about toys. Parents have money. Teenagers and college students don't. Did you ever wonder why 90% of your friends' XBoxes and PS2s are modded?4. If "Clueless Dad" walks into Wal-Mart looking for a console for his kids, he'll find that the cheapest one has about 200 E-rated games. On top of that, "Clueful Dad" will probably know that this cheap console is so durable that his kids will have to work really, really hard to wreck it before the next generation comes out.5. Were the 'cutesy discs' really a problem? I can only think of a handful of games that needed to span two discs.I think that Nintendo is working to convert a bit of its "kiddie" image to a "casual" image. The fact of the matter is, Gates didn't get into the console business because of Sony. He did it because he heard Nintendo had these insane 20% profit margins. Now he cries himself to sleep every night because Nintendo still has 20% profit margins and he's losing a mint. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:The biggest difference is by RustyTaco (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @02:27PMRe:The biggest difference is by Svartalf (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:33PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:The biggest difference is by Anonymous Coward (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @12:01PMRe:The biggest difference is by catprog (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @07:35PMRe:The biggest difference is by RoLi (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:05PMRe:The biggest difference is by SilentChris (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:35PM2nd, 3rd, big deal... by YesIAmAScript (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @06:47PMAh, but something to consider in the next gen... by SuperKendall (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:50PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:The biggest difference is by Rosco P. Coltrane (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:22PMRe:The biggest difference is by Planesdragon (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @02:11PM2 replies beneath your current threshold.Re:The biggest difference is by Deliveranc3 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:00PMRe:The biggest difference is by SScorpio (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @02:14PMRe:The biggest difference is by EiZei (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @01:08PMI'd also point out by Sycraft-fu (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @03:13PM You are full of crap.... but not "literally" (^_^) (Score:4, Insightful) by Dogtanian (588974) on Sunday November 06, @02:31PM (#13964037) (http://babelfish.alt...%2F%2Fslashdot.jp%2F) Microsoft literally gave the Xbox away. Microsoft did not literally give the Xbox away. When we say stuff like "Microsoft gave the Xbox away", we accept some slight exaggeration being used to make a point. I can't see any justification for throwing "literally" in there, unless you actually meant "literally". Or perhaps you didn't mean "literally" literally. But I doubt it... Please don't tell me you were actually referring to Microsoft giving a few of the things away in promotions; we know that's not what you meant :) [ Reply to This | ParentRe:The biggest difference is by Norgus (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:32AMRe:The biggest difference is by NeMon'ess (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @01:51PMRe:The biggest difference is by seebs (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @03:24PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Erm...no... (Score:3, Interesting) by kubevubin (906716) on Sunday November 06, @10:53AM (#13962914) (http://www.kevinski.com/) I've already read this article, and I don't feel that many of those "similarities" are even relevant. After all, couldn't much of the same be said of other consoles? [ Reply to ThisRe:Erm...no... by kubevubin (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @11:04AMRe:Erm...no... by penguin_asylum (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:06AMRe:Erm...no... by jerw134 (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @07:04PM Re:Erm...no... (Score:5, Insightful) by MBCook (132727) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Sunday November 06, @11:07AM (#13962989) (http://www.foobarsoft.com/) I've read this article too (I submitted it to /., but I guess he beat me to it).I don't think the article is meant to be taken seriously. It is part of their "launch coverage" (read: we need to fill time). It is interesting to look at, and some of the coincidences are surprising, but I think it is meant as a laugh.Either way, when you get to the second page, that is when the article becomes more serious. Many of the 10 reasons the XBox 360 will succeed show why a similarity from the previous page isn't so similar after-all.An example of this is on the first page, they show both the DC and the 360 have a way to connect to the internet (modem, and ethernet) and tout playing against your friends and such. On the second page, they point out the difference between the modem (yeah, you can use it) and XBox Live (already established, successful, high speed, and there is a good broadband penetration).This is just one of those "Isn't this interesting" articles, sort of like those things about the similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy. While many of them are kind of eerie, many of the similarities are a stretch and you can see people were just reaching for another connection. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Erm...no... by despisethesun (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @01:37PMRe:Erm...no... by Koiu Lpoi (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:53AMRe:Erm...no...(this title still applies) by Pulse_Instance (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:33PMRe:Erm...no...(this title still applies) by Koiu Lpoi (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @06:18PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.1 reply beneath your current threshold. I just had the same thought yesterday (Score:5, Funny) by Lord Byron II (671689) <slashdot@darkcHO ... minus herbivore> on Sunday November 06, @10:54AM (#13962922) The same thing occurred to me when I saw the white 360 controller in Walmart. "Is the Dreamcast back?" And then I saw the 360 logo. Interesting... [ Reply to ThisRe:I just had the same thought yesterday by zerocool^ (Score:3) Sunday November 06, @11:22AMRe:I just had the same thought yesterday by Fallingcow (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @04:44PMRe:I just had the same thought yesterday by zerocool^ (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @08:24PM1 reply beneath your current threshold.Re:I just had the same thought yesterday by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:25AM Similarities, or 'truth bending'? (Score:1) by penguin_asylum (822967) on Sunday November 06, @10:56AM (#13962933) Some of these 'similarities' are just ridiculous.Crazy rich bald guy showing up everywhere?!The slight, mostly irrelavent similarities are far outweighed by the differences, which mostly would have an effect on sales. [ Reply to This2 replies beneath your current threshold. Why 1UP won't be asked to dev the 360 interfaces (Score:2, Insightful) by Dominic Burns (673810) <[dominicburns] [at] [blueyonder.co.uk]> on Sunday November 06, @10:57AM (#13962939) Because you'd have to be an 8 year old mathematical genius to figure out TFA.Maybe it's because I'm old [33] or something but that article made little and/or no sense to me on any level.Idiots. [ Reply to ThisRe:Why 1UP won't be asked to dev the 360 interface by game kid (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:23AMRe:Why 1UP won't be asked to dev the 360 interface by Dominic Burns (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:08PMRe:Why 1UP won't be asked to dev the 360 interface by game kid (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:58PM1 reply beneath your current threshold. #13 Marketing (Score:5, Insightful) by the.Ceph (863988) on Sunday November 06, @10:58AM (#13962940) #13 on the list is "Peter Moore spearheaded the marketing" and most of the actual similarities seem like Marketing aspects of it so I think a better headline would read "How Peter Moore's marketing style resembles Peter Moore's marketing style" [ Reply to ThisRe:#13 Marketing by romiz (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:24AM1 reply beneath your current threshold. Stupid stupid stupid (Score:1) by fruitbane (454488) on Sunday November 06, @11:00AM (#13962951) What's obnoxious and stupid about comparisons and articles like this is that the Dreamcast didn't fail that badly in the US. In fact, the Dreamcast was still very much in the market in the US when it was declared to be killed off. It failed in Japan quite spectacularly, but the US market remained robust. [ Reply to ThisRe:Stupid stupid stupid by kubevubin (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:10AMRe:Stupid stupid stupid by ilyaaohell (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:08PMRe:Stupid stupid stupid by kubevubin (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @12:26PMRe:Stupid stupid stupid by ilyaaohell (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:45PMRe:Stupid stupid stupid by fruitbane (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @03:08PM3 replies beneath your current threshold. Let us hope it is as easy to mod as dreamcast (Score:2, Informative) by hairyfeet (841228) on Sunday November 06, @11:01AM (#13962956) As someone who recently picked up a second Dreamcast for my nephews,Let me say that I will only pick up an Xbox 360 if a good modding comunity springs up for it.Long after they quit shipping the DC I have found a new life for it playing emulated games with the boys and showing them what we played "Back in the day"As DRM and other crap like lawsuits threaten the mod comunity I just hope they remember that cool mods help sell consoles.Half the fun is finding out what you can do with it BESIDES play games.If they cut that out I'll just build my boys new computers and forget about consoles.At least then I'll know they'll get as much use out of it as our trusty old DC. [ Reply to This Re:Let us hope it is as easy to mod as dreamcast (Score:5, Informative) by jmcmunn (307798) on Sunday November 06, @11:09AM (#13962994) (http://jiggybyte.com/) They don't care if your mods help sell consoles. They lose money on the consoles. They make the money on the software and accessories. So, by you modding the console, and buying nothing else (save for maybe a memory card to perform the 'raincoat mod' or something) they get nothing else from you. How is this good for them? Why is Microsoft happy that they sold more Xbox's to people when they lost so much money on each one? If you don't get Xbox live, don't buy games, and never get the latest greatest accessory, then they lose money on you. They couldn't care less that you are running Linux on it, or playing homebrew games that make them no money...The only possible benefit is that if you modded their console, you are probably more likely to have modded the competitions console as well, and thus their competitor also lost money on you...Now DRM is a little different, I find it annoying in most cases and believe that it doesn't really help stop piracy in most cases. And I am a software engineer, so I can relate to not wanting my stuff pirated. I know a lot of musicians who also beleive DRM is not the right way to solve the problem, we're all just waiting for a better alternative unfortunately. [ Reply to This | ParentRe:Let us hope it is as easy to mod as dreamcast by SStrungis (Score:1) Sunday November 06, @11:33AMRe:Let us hope it is as easy to mod as dreamcast by Have Blue (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @11:50AMRe:Let us hope it is as easy to mod as dreamcast by nine-times (Score:2) Sunday November 06, @12:25PM